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There are things in this world that are not a business.

by weland 11y ago

sobkas 11y ago
But also this things don't have money to spend on software they can use for free. Or time to contribute in any other way.
the_af 11y ago
Yes, but forget monetary/labor contributions. I think jkyle has a point: the BSD license is a "no strings attached" license, and so it can be chosen by people who presumably don't even want to promote the software, advertise the fact they are using it or campaign for more software like it. If Theo De Raadt finds this disappointing, maybe he should choose a different license?
- yellowapple 11y ago
  The problem is that de Raadt and crew have a much bigger priority: that OpenBSD's code proliferate and prevent any duplication of effort in creating secure programs. They've explicitly stated in the past that they consider proprietary use of their code to be a good thing (albeit it would be better if they'd push some money back to the OpenBSD crowd) because it prevents those companies from having to create yet another in-house-developed (and probably half-assed) security implementation.
  - the_af 11y ago
    That's a perfectly reasonable priority! It's just that it possibly comes along with some disappointment, caused by people who don't contribute anything back (money, code, documentation or simply promoting the software).
    - yellowapple 11y ago
      Indeed. I'm personally glad it's the priority; knowing full well that non-free software ain't going away any time soon (alas), I'd much rather that non-free software be using well-designed and thoroughly-audited OpenBSD-derived code than using some hacked-up monstrosity in its place.
  - jkyle 11y ago
    The problem is that de Raadt and crew have a much bigger priority: that OpenBSD's code proliferate and prevent any duplication of effort in creating secure programs. I think that's an excellent reason to use a BSD license. If you want to facilitate wide industry adoption that has zero resistance from legal departments, BSD is an obvious choice.

There are things in this world that are not a business.

by weland 11y ago

There are things in this world that are not a business.

But also this things don't have money to spend on software they can use for free. Or time to contribute in any other way.

the_af 11y ago

Yes, but forget monetary/labor contributions. I think jkyle has a point: the BSD license is a "no strings attached" license, and so it can be chosen by people who presumably don't even want to promote the software, advertise the fact they are using it or campaign for more software like it. If Theo De Raadt finds this disappointing, maybe he should choose a different license?

yellowapple 11y ago
The problem is that de Raadt and crew have a much bigger priority: that OpenBSD's code proliferate and prevent any duplication of effort in creating secure programs. They've explicitly stated in the past that they consider proprietary use of their code to be a good thing (albeit it would be better if they'd push some money back to the OpenBSD crowd) because it prevents those companies from having to create yet another in-house-developed (and probably half-assed) security implementation.
- the_af 11y ago
  That's a perfectly reasonable priority! It's just that it possibly comes along with some disappointment, caused by people who don't contribute anything back (money, code, documentation or simply promoting the software).
  - yellowapple 11y ago
    Indeed. I'm personally glad it's the priority; knowing full well that non-free software ain't going away any time soon (alas), I'd much rather that non-free software be using well-designed and thoroughly-audited OpenBSD-derived code than using some hacked-up monstrosity in its place.
- jkyle 11y ago
  The problem is that de Raadt and crew have a much bigger priority: that OpenBSD's code proliferate and prevent any duplication of effort in creating secure programs. I think that's an excellent reason to use a BSD license. If you want to facilitate wide industry adoption that has zero resistance from legal departments, BSD is an obvious choice.