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I primarily know about the projects listed at https://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/809f10db25eddf3e/projects https://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/809f10db25eddf3e/project

by th0br0 11y ago

I primarily know about the projects listed at https://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/809f10db25eddf3e/projects https://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/809f10db25eddf3e/projects A personal observation is that, nowadays, gitlab seems to be preferred to github as part of a push to rely more on software developed inside the EU (guess it's an aftermath of the whole NSA story). PolicyCompass, for example, lives at https://github.com/policycompass https://github.com/policycompass Carneades lives at http://github.com/carneades http://github.com/carneades MARKOS is up on SF http://markosproject.sourceforge.net/ http://markosproject.sourceforge.net/

chupy 11y ago
Just curious, is that software developed by consultants or by actual EU employees?
- th0br0 11y ago
  Consultants essentially. There's also some IT development going on by actual EU employees, but the projects I listed above are usually won through tenders often submitted as a joint project by multiple companies/organisations (research partners - i.e. universities -, development partners - i.e. big companies - + public partners - often for demo purposes) although the EU also funds some purely research oriented projects of course.
  - chupy 11y ago
    Thanks for the answer. I met a couple of developers employed and contracted by the EU / Parliament, I really don't want to generalise this but they did not seem the type that would work on such software that you linked to...or the type that would actually recommend OpenBSD..or even actually know what OpenBSD is.
- bnegreve 11y ago
  FP7 founds research projects, so we're mostly talking about research software which is usually developed by researchers.
sytse 11y ago
GitLab CEO here, we indeed see more and more organizations starting to host their own GitLab server to become self reliant.
tormeh 11y ago
Never heard of them. Neglected PR?
- th0br0 11y ago
  Those 3 I linked above are mostly research projects, all funded as part of FP7 and the EU doesn't seem to do much PR for those themselves. I'd expect the upcoming (pan)"European Open Data Portal" to receive significantly more PR from the EU.
kriro 11y ago
This has to be taken with a grain of salt. Frauenhofer in particular is rather "patent focused" and I think it carries over to their (there's a lot of Frauenhofers...overgeneralizing) general view on software. It's only anecdotal evidence from being at some research matchmaking events (Horizon 2020 etc.) and working in that field. That being said OpenSource is explicitly mentioned in many calls. I'm mostly working on country specific calls but they are usually constructed similarly. OpenSource is often mentioned as a "potential use after the project" or a "result". Interestingly the provided headlines for calls will often read like this: "Potential use (for example OpenSource, patents, marketable product)" :D +Actual software development usually isn't the goal of research projects. In the EU they use maturity levels (initially from the aviation industry I think) and it's quite a bit more "actual software/solutions" focused than the country specific calls (by design). Overall anyone who has worked in software development or even better at a startup would get a good chuckle out of these research funding events and the general process btw. (my personal opinion).

by th0br0 11y ago

chupy 11y ago

Just curious, is that software developed by consultants or by actual EU employees?

th0br0 11y ago
Consultants essentially. There's also some IT development going on by actual EU employees, but the projects I listed above are usually won through tenders often submitted as a joint project by multiple companies/organisations (research partners - i.e. universities -, development partners - i.e. big companies - + public partners - often for demo purposes) although the EU also funds some purely research oriented projects of course.
- chupy 11y ago
  Thanks for the answer. I met a couple of developers employed and contracted by the EU / Parliament, I really don't want to generalise this but they did not seem the type that would work on such software that you linked to...or the type that would actually recommend OpenBSD..or even actually know what OpenBSD is.
bnegreve 11y ago
FP7 founds research projects, so we're mostly talking about research software which is usually developed by researchers.

sytse 11y ago

GitLab CEO here, we indeed see more and more organizations starting to host their own GitLab server to become self reliant.

tormeh 11y ago

Never heard of them. Neglected PR?

th0br0 11y ago
Those 3 I linked above are mostly research projects, all funded as part of FP7 and the EU doesn't seem to do much PR for those themselves. I'd expect the upcoming (pan)"European Open Data Portal" to receive significantly more PR from the EU.

kriro 11y ago

This has to be taken with a grain of salt. Frauenhofer in particular is rather "patent focused" and I think it carries over to their (there's a lot of Frauenhofers...overgeneralizing) general view on software. It's only anecdotal evidence from being at some research matchmaking events (Horizon 2020 etc.) and working in that field. That being said OpenSource is explicitly mentioned in many calls. I'm mostly working on country specific calls but they are usually constructed similarly. OpenSource is often mentioned as a "potential use after the project" or a "result". Interestingly the provided headlines for calls will often read like this: "Potential use (for example OpenSource, patents, marketable product)" :D +Actual software development usually isn't the goal of research projects. In the EU they use maturity levels (initially from the aviation industry I think) and it's quite a bit more "actual software/solutions" focused than the country specific calls (by design). Overall anyone who has worked in software development or even better at a startup would get a good chuckle out of these research funding events and the general process btw. (my personal opinion).