Oh boy, another complaint about having a diversity of tools available. You're not really contributing much here, and it's a frustrating attitude to see. We're

Oh boy, another complaint about having a diversity of tools available. You're not really contributing much here, and it's a frustrating attitude to see. We're still in the relatively early days of building the kind of apps that these frameworks are targeted at; the idea that any time spent on incremental improvement or experimentation is a waste, and instead we should; 'redefine how we write web programs' is just nonsense. It's extremely rare that things evolve in that fashion. Yes, programming probably should be accessible to everyone. That's a gigantic, fuzzy challenge that's totally orthogonal to spending time developing tools that are useful in the immediate present. And it's not like it's never been tried before. What about Hypercard, or more recently Scratch? Or Swift's playgrounds? All of these are looking at ways to make development more visual and accessible. Your time would be much better spent contributing to those efforts than rubbishing the attempts of other people to deal with other problems.