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I was happy to see Clive, and I imagine a RUMP implementation or other unikernel that supports Rust won't be far away. Being able to compile Go or Rust to metal

I was happy to see Clive, and I imagine a RUMP implementation or other unikernel that supports Rust won't be far away. Being able to compile Go or Rust to metal byte code is absurdly sexy. I don't know how AWS will meter it yet (yup, I love AWS) but I sure hope they're following this trend. AWS support would put so much energy behind this path forward.

mcguire 12y ago
Isn't AWS built on XEN? I think the MirageOS folks have said you could deploy one of their unikernel apps on AWS as-is.
- Sanddancer 12y ago
  Yes it is, and AWS already supports unikernels.
  - pyvpx 12y ago
    unfortunately other providers, like DigitalOcean, don't seem to support rumpkernels or unikernels.
    - mcguire 12y ago
      I believe the problem isn't so much that DO, etc., don't support unikernels, as that they use something other than Xen as the virtualization layer; something-other-than-Xen is still on the to-do list of the unikernel projects.
      - anttiok 12y ago
        The rump kernel unikernel (rumprun) will happily work on actual hardware. It's a bit hazy if that's a unikernel or an embedded system in that case (and what's the difference anyway?), but to avoid hairsplitting, you can replace the hardware with KVM and off you go.
  - axelfontaine 12y ago
    Yes, we can confirm that. We let you generate and run unikernels for JVM apps on AWS at https://boxfuse.com https://boxfuse.com Disclaimer: I am the founder
    - anonymousDan 12y ago
      Interesting. Is it open source?
      - axelfontaine 12y ago
        No. It is SaaS with an installable client. But we do have a free tier that is perfectly aligned to the AWS free tier. Also there is no lock-in per se as you give Boxfuse an app in a standard format (.jar/.war) and Boxfuse turns it into an image in a cloud native format like an AMI for AWS. All this with just a single command.
  - themartorana 12y ago
    Any chance you'll support Rust or Go in the future? Our company doesn't deal with the JVM at all - mostly Python and Go currently.
- joeyspn 12y ago
  Yeah, like Erlang on Xen... it's ready to deploy to AWS http://erlangonxen.org/try/ec2 http://erlangonxen.org/try/ec2

mcguire 12y ago

Isn't AWS built on XEN? I think the MirageOS folks have said you could deploy one of their unikernel apps on AWS as-is.

Sanddancer 12y ago
Yes it is, and AWS already supports unikernels.
- pyvpx 12y ago
  unfortunately other providers, like DigitalOcean, don't seem to support rumpkernels or unikernels.
  - mcguire 12y ago
    I believe the problem isn't so much that DO, etc., don't support unikernels, as that they use something other than Xen as the virtualization layer; something-other-than-Xen is still on the to-do list of the unikernel projects.
    - anttiok 12y ago
      The rump kernel unikernel (rumprun) will happily work on actual hardware. It's a bit hazy if that's a unikernel or an embedded system in that case (and what's the difference anyway?), but to avoid hairsplitting, you can replace the hardware with KVM and off you go.
- axelfontaine 12y ago
  Yes, we can confirm that. We let you generate and run unikernels for JVM apps on AWS at https://boxfuse.com https://boxfuse.com Disclaimer: I am the founder
  - anonymousDan 12y ago
    Interesting. Is it open source?
    - axelfontaine 12y ago
      No. It is SaaS with an installable client. But we do have a free tier that is perfectly aligned to the AWS free tier. Also there is no lock-in per se as you give Boxfuse an app in a standard format (.jar/.war) and Boxfuse turns it into an image in a cloud native format like an AMI for AWS. All this with just a single command.
- themartorana 12y ago
  Any chance you'll support Rust or Go in the future? Our company doesn't deal with the JVM at all - mostly Python and Go currently.
joeyspn 12y ago
Yeah, like Erlang on Xen... it's ready to deploy to AWS http://erlangonxen.org/try/ec2 http://erlangonxen.org/try/ec2