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Yep, and not particularly interesting. It is a catchy title and some showcase for Systemd.

by istvan__ 11y ago

lsc 11y ago
Much like docker.
- istvan__ 11y ago
  I am not sure what you are talking about. I am talking about this: "Within 9 days, all of the top 10 Linux distributions will use systemd by default, or descend from one that does." https://chimeracoder.github.io/docker-without-docker/#1 https://chimeracoder.github.io/docker-without-docker/#1
  - mkhpalm 11y ago
    What they mean is when the slides were made, Debian 8 was about to be released in "stable" with systemd. With debian 8 released the only oddball is ubuntu with their own early fork of systemd called upstart. It means from this day forward the things you see in the demo are already or inevitably available on every install of linux. You don't need to install anything special to do what he's doing there. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Linux_Distribution_Timeline_with_Android.svg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Linux_Dis...
    - jqm 11y ago
      "inevitably available on every install of linux" s/every/most. Slackware and a few others still do not use systemd and quite possibly never will.
      - snaky 11y ago
        Gentoo supports both ways - with or without (using eudev instead of udev) systemd.
    - baghira 11y ago
      1. Upstart is not a fork of systemd, and was started a fair amount of time before systemd. 2. Ubuntu 15.04 just shipped with systemd as the default init system (although installing "upstart-sysv" the system should revert to using upstart).
      - deleted 11y ago
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      - rogerbinns 11y ago
        Note that in the Grub boot menu you can also choose whether Ubuntu 15.04 boots with upstart or systemd. Both are functional. Thankfully that saved me when systemd couldn't grasp the concept of a btrfs volume being spread over two disks (raid 0).
        blubbers 11y ago
        really? i have that exact setup except with three striped disks, it works fine
        rogerbinns 11y ago
        Gory details are at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1447879 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/14478... It actually mounts root correctly, but them fails to mount home which has exactly the same details except a different subvol parameter.
        digi_owl 11y ago
        Systemd seems to have ongoing problems with mounting...
        rogerbinns 11y ago
        In this case it would perfectly if it just tried to do the mount, exactly as written in fstab. Instead it tries to be clever and ends up outwitting itself.

Yep, and not particularly interesting. It is a catchy title and some showcase for Systemd.

lsc 11y ago

Much like docker.

istvan__ 11y ago
I am not sure what you are talking about. I am talking about this: "Within 9 days, all of the top 10 Linux distributions will use systemd by default, or descend from one that does." https://chimeracoder.github.io/docker-without-docker/#1 https://chimeracoder.github.io/docker-without-docker/#1
- mkhpalm 11y ago
  What they mean is when the slides were made, Debian 8 was about to be released in "stable" with systemd. With debian 8 released the only oddball is ubuntu with their own early fork of systemd called upstart. It means from this day forward the things you see in the demo are already or inevitably available on every install of linux. You don't need to install anything special to do what he's doing there. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Linux_Distribution_Timeline_with_Android.svg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Linux_Dis...
  - jqm 11y ago
    "inevitably available on every install of linux" s/every/most. Slackware and a few others still do not use systemd and quite possibly never will.
    - snaky 11y ago
      Gentoo supports both ways - with or without (using eudev instead of udev) systemd.
  - baghira 11y ago
    1. Upstart is not a fork of systemd, and was started a fair amount of time before systemd. 2. Ubuntu 15.04 just shipped with systemd as the default init system (although installing "upstart-sysv" the system should revert to using upstart).
    - deleted 11y ago
      [deleted]
    - rogerbinns 11y ago
      Note that in the Grub boot menu you can also choose whether Ubuntu 15.04 boots with upstart or systemd. Both are functional. Thankfully that saved me when systemd couldn't grasp the concept of a btrfs volume being spread over two disks (raid 0).
      - blubbers 11y ago
        really? i have that exact setup except with three striped disks, it works fine
        rogerbinns 11y ago
        Gory details are at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1447879 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/14478... It actually mounts root correctly, but them fails to mount home which has exactly the same details except a different subvol parameter.
        digi_owl 11y ago
        Systemd seems to have ongoing problems with mounting...
        rogerbinns 11y ago
        In this case it would perfectly if it just tried to do the mount, exactly as written in fstab. Instead it tries to be clever and ends up outwitting itself.