> DOM manipulation sucks and you know it does No I don't. I'm not at all a fan of stuffing application logic into the HTML; it means that I need to look both

> DOM manipulation sucks and you know it does No I don't. I'm not at all a fan of stuffing application logic into the HTML; it means that I need to look both in the JavaScript and in the HTML. I'm also not a fan of generating the structure of a page in JavaScript, but I find this slightly more forgiveable since I know the JS can always manipulate the page. Then again, I also refuse to view Angular as JavaScript - I find skimming over Angular code incomprehensible.