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I thought the same. Google wasn't always like this but since the android patent wars which made them buy Motorola for their patent portfolio - they seem to be

I thought the same. Google wasn't always like this but since the android patent wars which made them buy Motorola for their patent portfolio - they seem to be just like all the others now.

dgregd 11y ago
And most incumbent players seem to like the current state of affairs. The whole situation is beginning to resemble feudal Europe class system. You cannot sell a car unless you belong to a specific fraternity. You cannot sell Android phones unless you pay licence fees to some company. The free market is shrinking because of various regulations written by lobbyists. Unfortunately this seems to a trend for societies across the globe. The older society, the more walls higher class builds to protect their status.
- morb 11y ago
  "You cannot sell Android phones unless you pay licence fees to some company"? Of course you need to pay licence fees to "some company" if you are selling Android phones, they're the ones making it. Why shouldn't Google get paid for their work? You can always remove Play store and other Gstuff and "leech" Android like Amazon. Let's not compare selling(licensing) software to some kind of feudal extortion pls. I kinda can see what you're trying to say, it has been said many times before - patents make it harder for new players to enter the market. We have Jolla (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla), and that spanish Ubuntu/Android-phone maker (http://www.bq.com/gb/ http://www.bq.com/gb/), and the other spanish company (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeeksPhone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeeksPhone) which kinda prove otherwise.
  - the_ancient 11y ago
    So people that make use of Open Source software are Leeches now? Really....
  - FreakyT 11y ago
    I think he's actually referring to the Microsoft Android patent licensing thing: http://gizmodo.com/the-secret-android-patents-that-microsoft-forces-oems-t-1591338496 http://gizmodo.com/the-secret-android-patents-that-microsoft...
hemonthe 11y ago
I would hesitate to describe Google as 'just like the others' until Google uses their patents offensively. Apple has a similar patent to this one and I presume Google got this one as a defence
- binaryanomaly 11y ago
  Agree, not yet. But then there's no guarantee. And seeing them trying to build up a patent inventory for stuff that seems to be close to obvious or public knowledge gives mixed feelings...

I thought the same. Google wasn't always like this but since the android patent wars which made them buy Motorola for their patent portfolio - they seem to be just like all the others now.

dgregd 11y ago

And most incumbent players seem to like the current state of affairs. The whole situation is beginning to resemble feudal Europe class system. You cannot sell a car unless you belong to a specific fraternity. You cannot sell Android phones unless you pay licence fees to some company. The free market is shrinking because of various regulations written by lobbyists. Unfortunately this seems to a trend for societies across the globe. The older society, the more walls higher class builds to protect their status.

morb 11y ago
"You cannot sell Android phones unless you pay licence fees to some company"? Of course you need to pay licence fees to "some company" if you are selling Android phones, they're the ones making it. Why shouldn't Google get paid for their work? You can always remove Play store and other Gstuff and "leech" Android like Amazon. Let's not compare selling(licensing) software to some kind of feudal extortion pls. I kinda can see what you're trying to say, it has been said many times before - patents make it harder for new players to enter the market. We have Jolla (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla), and that spanish Ubuntu/Android-phone maker (http://www.bq.com/gb/ http://www.bq.com/gb/), and the other spanish company (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeeksPhone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeeksPhone) which kinda prove otherwise.
- the_ancient 11y ago
  So people that make use of Open Source software are Leeches now? Really....
- FreakyT 11y ago
  I think he's actually referring to the Microsoft Android patent licensing thing: http://gizmodo.com/the-secret-android-patents-that-microsoft-forces-oems-t-1591338496 http://gizmodo.com/the-secret-android-patents-that-microsoft...

hemonthe 11y ago

I would hesitate to describe Google as 'just like the others' until Google uses their patents offensively. Apple has a similar patent to this one and I presume Google got this one as a defence

binaryanomaly 11y ago
Agree, not yet. But then there's no guarantee. And seeing them trying to build up a patent inventory for stuff that seems to be close to obvious or public knowledge gives mixed feelings...