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The people who say you should work 16 hours a day are the ones hoping to get rich at your expense. Also, after 40 hours a week, productivity starts to go negat

by fsk 11y ago

The people who say you should work 16 hours a day are the ones hoping to get rich at your expense. Also, after 40 hours a week, productivity starts to go negative. Stick to 8 hours a day. Work for a couple of years as an employee and build up some savings. Then start something on the side or try again with some savings.

MichaelGG 11y ago
The exception is if you've been "at work" for X hours, then really get in the flow and are doing really well, hell, ride it out. This happens now and then with me, and I'll stay up all night making good progress. Just beware if you've been debugging a single issue for more than 30 minutes or so, you may be degraded and stuck. (Or worse, if you're doing perf optimizations.)
- fsk 11y ago
  Nowadays I only stay late if I'm troubleshooting a production issue. Otherwise, I just take notes of where I am, what I was thinking, and finish the next day.
  - bingomantis 11y ago
    I'm currently in a toxic workplace ... incompetent management but I stuck around since I had decent coworkers. Well .. a few reorgs later, and I'm stuck with the crazies ... my current coworkers are keeners/workaholics who work at midnight-3am. They are social BSers since they make sure they email everyone/post questions on Slack. We've been on crisis mode since last fall. Days like this, I feel like I've had it with tech. Wish I had a plan B. In any case, I'll likely quit my job in a few weeks. I like what an earlier poster was saying about respect. Tech is full of the young and it is a competitive field. We have short memories and it seems we have forgotten that our field used to be noble. People used to be in tech because we loved it. Today, it is all about the money and I hate it.
    - fsk 11y ago
      >People used to be in tech because we loved it. Today, it is all about the money and I hate it. It's Gresham's Law. When most of the people in a field are there to chase the money, the people who really enjoy it and are good at it don't fit in and they're the ones who get chased out. That's why things like Scrum and Agile and open plan offices are popular. If you have a team of 20+ mediocre people, you need to do stupid stuff like that to keep things moving in the right direction. It doesn't matter that 2-3 people with real talent would get a better product out cheaper. If you hire 2-3 great people, then you're dependent on them. If you hire 20 mediocre people, then it doesn't matter when one leaves.

by fsk 11y ago

MichaelGG 11y ago

The exception is if you've been "at work" for X hours, then really get in the flow and are doing really well, hell, ride it out. This happens now and then with me, and I'll stay up all night making good progress. Just beware if you've been debugging a single issue for more than 30 minutes or so, you may be degraded and stuck. (Or worse, if you're doing perf optimizations.)

fsk 11y ago
Nowadays I only stay late if I'm troubleshooting a production issue. Otherwise, I just take notes of where I am, what I was thinking, and finish the next day.
- bingomantis 11y ago
  I'm currently in a toxic workplace ... incompetent management but I stuck around since I had decent coworkers. Well .. a few reorgs later, and I'm stuck with the crazies ... my current coworkers are keeners/workaholics who work at midnight-3am. They are social BSers since they make sure they email everyone/post questions on Slack. We've been on crisis mode since last fall. Days like this, I feel like I've had it with tech. Wish I had a plan B. In any case, I'll likely quit my job in a few weeks. I like what an earlier poster was saying about respect. Tech is full of the young and it is a competitive field. We have short memories and it seems we have forgotten that our field used to be noble. People used to be in tech because we loved it. Today, it is all about the money and I hate it.
  - fsk 11y ago
    >People used to be in tech because we loved it. Today, it is all about the money and I hate it. It's Gresham's Law. When most of the people in a field are there to chase the money, the people who really enjoy it and are good at it don't fit in and they're the ones who get chased out. That's why things like Scrum and Agile and open plan offices are popular. If you have a team of 20+ mediocre people, you need to do stupid stuff like that to keep things moving in the right direction. It doesn't matter that 2-3 people with real talent would get a better product out cheaper. If you hire 2-3 great people, then you're dependent on them. If you hire 20 mediocre people, then it doesn't matter when one leaves.