> It’s totally underground, but that’s OK, too ... I want as many people to have access to the music as possible, but being underground is kind of a requiremen

> It’s totally underground, but that’s OK, too ... I want as many people to have access to the music as possible, but being underground is kind of a requirement for hardcore music. You don't want it to be an affectation or exclusionary, but hardcore has always been about not fitting in and being on the outside of quotidian society.