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Then you have not traveled to central america. When I first went down, I'd always introduce myself as an American. I would get amused incredulity in return. The

Then you have not traveled to central america. When I first went down, I'd always introduce myself as an American. I would get amused incredulity in return. They see themselves as Americans, and rightly so. The misguided superiority complex we seem to maintain up here is petty, and your comment drips of it. Let's say you were 80, and your second 40 years mirrored your first forty. How many individuals would you guess you spoke with? The population of the Americas combined is ~1 billions (2008)[google search].

jganetsk 11y ago
So then what do you propose as an English-language demonym to replace "American" when traveling through Central America? United-Statesian? Usonian? Unisian? USian? Uessian? US-American? It has nothing to do with an alleged superiority complex, and is just a matter of language. "But why this term "America" has become representative as the name of these United States at home and abroad is past recall." –Frank Lloyd Wright on Architecture: Selected Writings 1894–1940, p. 100.
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  > So then what do you propose as an English-language demonym to replace "American" when traveling through Central America? > United-Statesian? Usonian? Unisian? USian? Uessian? US-American? Well, in Spanish-speaking countries (not just Central America) you could just use the term that already exists in Spanish to resolve this ambiguity (which is basically the same as your first, only derived from the Spanish for "United States" by Spanish rules): Estadounidense.
  - jganetsk 11y ago
    Note that I already posted about "estadounidense" above. That's perfectly fine for Spanish. But speaking in English, one says "American", not because of a "dripping superiority complex" as stated above, but just because it's idiomatic. In a sense, what the Central Americans are getting offending over is a false cognate. And false cognates can often lead to these kinds of problems: if I referred to trousers as "pants" around Brits, I get yelled at for being a stupid American. There are countless examples of this. This is by no means a problem unique to Americans or unique to the English language. While travelers should be aware of local idioms and the potential for false cognates, they can't exactly be blamed for lacking perfect knowledge either. All other English-speaking countries use the term "American" in this way. Note especially that Canadians share the same idioms, speaking of America and Americans (although they might favor using "the States" over "America"). Also note that Canadians colloquially use "North America" to mean the USA + Canada, leaving out Central American countries.
    - classicsnoot 11y ago
      A bit of a niggle here, but I said your post drips with... Not 'dripping superiority complex'... But I actually really like that phrase. Upon reread I see that I come of as a SJW Berk. I apologize; I just got reamed by my fellow gringos so much it is second nature. You are correct; I don't know what the word should be, but I do feel we need one.
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    - pif 11y ago
      > Canadians colloquially use "North America" to mean the USA + Canada, leaving out Central American countries. Just for the record, this doesn't shock me. While Americas are geologically two, I've always been taught about North, Central an South America from a geopolitical point of view.

jganetsk 11y ago

So then what do you propose as an English-language demonym to replace "American" when traveling through Central America? United-Statesian? Usonian? Unisian? USian? Uessian? US-American? It has nothing to do with an alleged superiority complex, and is just a matter of language. "But why this term "America" has become representative as the name of these United States at home and abroad is past recall." –Frank Lloyd Wright on Architecture: Selected Writings 1894–1940, p. 100.

dragonwriter 11y ago
> So then what do you propose as an English-language demonym to replace "American" when traveling through Central America? > United-Statesian? Usonian? Unisian? USian? Uessian? US-American? Well, in Spanish-speaking countries (not just Central America) you could just use the term that already exists in Spanish to resolve this ambiguity (which is basically the same as your first, only derived from the Spanish for "United States" by Spanish rules): Estadounidense.
- jganetsk 11y ago
  Note that I already posted about "estadounidense" above. That's perfectly fine for Spanish. But speaking in English, one says "American", not because of a "dripping superiority complex" as stated above, but just because it's idiomatic. In a sense, what the Central Americans are getting offending over is a false cognate. And false cognates can often lead to these kinds of problems: if I referred to trousers as "pants" around Brits, I get yelled at for being a stupid American. There are countless examples of this. This is by no means a problem unique to Americans or unique to the English language. While travelers should be aware of local idioms and the potential for false cognates, they can't exactly be blamed for lacking perfect knowledge either. All other English-speaking countries use the term "American" in this way. Note especially that Canadians share the same idioms, speaking of America and Americans (although they might favor using "the States" over "America"). Also note that Canadians colloquially use "North America" to mean the USA + Canada, leaving out Central American countries.
  - classicsnoot 11y ago
    A bit of a niggle here, but I said your post drips with... Not 'dripping superiority complex'... But I actually really like that phrase. Upon reread I see that I come of as a SJW Berk. I apologize; I just got reamed by my fellow gringos so much it is second nature. You are correct; I don't know what the word should be, but I do feel we need one.
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  - pif 11y ago
    > Canadians colloquially use "North America" to mean the USA + Canada, leaving out Central American countries. Just for the record, this doesn't shock me. While Americas are geologically two, I've always been taught about North, Central an South America from a geopolitical point of view.