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> As much as I like GW2, I wish they had kept more gameplay mechanics from the previous game. This was my biggest surprise with GW2. All the videos leading up

> As much as I like GW2, I wish they had kept more gameplay mechanics from the previous game. This was my biggest surprise with GW2. All the videos leading up to its release had me really excited. The combat looked so much more engaging and interactive. In the end, I found myself preferring GW1. But to be fair, it may just be age. I find it harder to play games for extended periods of time than it was back when I was in high school.

digi_owl 12y ago
The issue is in essence that GW2 has become overly streamlined for sake of PVP. It is a curse i see with all MMORPGs that provide some kind of "competitive" PVP. Sooner or later the PVE side suffers because of some "exploit" or "OP" combo that makes PVPers cry foul.
- girvo 12y ago
  I agree. One of the things I love about PvE is the ability to feel powerful, properly powerful. Unfortunately, that can be at odds with competitive PvE, so it's unsurprising that the two goals can affect one another.
  - digi_owl 12y ago
    Indeed. A classic example is the concept of control. Back in the PVE only days, control was indispensable. Every time you aggroed a mob, other mobs nearby would also tag along. So controllers stepped in to subdue them while the DPS and tanks went to work on the main target. But while it is fun to keep a mob helpless for minutes in PVE, being at the receiving end of it in PVP is no fun at all. So these days control has pretty much gone byebye, or is heavily curtailed when applied to characters rather than mobs. Another thing is that in recent years games has gotten more "furious". Back in the day a fight good fight could drag on for minutes, with each side trading blows and coming up with strategies and counter strategies as the fight ebbed and flowed. This put brains ahead of player brawns or reflexes. But now it is all interrupts and twitch. Dodge this, block that, constantly moving out of fields and looking for "tells".

digi_owl 12y ago

The issue is in essence that GW2 has become overly streamlined for sake of PVP. It is a curse i see with all MMORPGs that provide some kind of "competitive" PVP. Sooner or later the PVE side suffers because of some "exploit" or "OP" combo that makes PVPers cry foul.

girvo 12y ago
I agree. One of the things I love about PvE is the ability to feel powerful, properly powerful. Unfortunately, that can be at odds with competitive PvE, so it's unsurprising that the two goals can affect one another.
- digi_owl 12y ago
  Indeed. A classic example is the concept of control. Back in the PVE only days, control was indispensable. Every time you aggroed a mob, other mobs nearby would also tag along. So controllers stepped in to subdue them while the DPS and tanks went to work on the main target. But while it is fun to keep a mob helpless for minutes in PVE, being at the receiving end of it in PVP is no fun at all. So these days control has pretty much gone byebye, or is heavily curtailed when applied to characters rather than mobs. Another thing is that in recent years games has gotten more "furious". Back in the day a fight good fight could drag on for minutes, with each side trading blows and coming up with strategies and counter strategies as the fight ebbed and flowed. This put brains ahead of player brawns or reflexes. But now it is all interrupts and twitch. Dodge this, block that, constantly moving out of fields and looking for "tells".