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While it is tempting to hope that at some point the US will disengage and let the world fend for itself it is not in the interest of anyone except ISIS, Russia

While it is tempting to hope that at some point the US will disengage and let the world fend for itself it is not in the interest of anyone except ISIS, Russia and possibly China. I would personally love to see Putin haranguing Europe.

dalke 12y ago
There is no reason to go from one extreme - the 'cops of the word' to quote Ochs - to extreme isolationism on the other. There are many stages in between. FWIW, I believe many residents of Okinawa Prefecture would be interested in having US military off of their island, should the US withdraw. Should we do that, I suspect Japan would quickly develop nuclear weapons. I also strongly believe many in Latin America would prefer a strict isolationist policy by the US. Many remember how the US supported right-wing authoritarian regimes in the 1970s and 1980s, don't want the US meddling in their country, and have little to fear from Eurasian threats.
- happyscrappy 12y ago
  No it won't happen. Europe being America's hand puppet is the cornerstone of US power.
  - dalke 12y ago
    You said it wasn't in the interest of anyone, other than ISIS, Russia, and China, for the US to withdraw. I pointed out some other examples of people who probably would like the US out of the international stage. Your reply here makes it sound either like you didn't understand your original point - the hope that the US might withdraw - or that you believe the only people who are relevant are the US and those the US considers to be its opposition. I am certain there are people in Bolivia who would like the US to stop protecting US business interests in that country, and who will not be negatively affected by possible growth in Russian, Chinese, or ISIS power should the US become the isolationist state you says was "tempting to hope".

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While it is tempting to hope that at some point the US will disengage and let the world fend for itself it is not in the interest of anyone except ISIS, Russia

by happyscrappy 12y ago

dalke 12y ago
There is no reason to go from one extreme - the 'cops of the word' to quote Ochs - to extreme isolationism on the other. There are many stages in between. FWIW, I believe many residents of Okinawa Prefecture would be interested in having US military off of their island, should the US withdraw. Should we do that, I suspect Japan would quickly develop nuclear weapons. I also strongly believe many in Latin America would prefer a strict isolationist policy by the US. Many remember how the US supported right-wing authoritarian regimes in the 1970s and 1980s, don't want the US meddling in their country, and have little to fear from Eurasian threats.
- happyscrappy 12y ago
  No it won't happen. Europe being America's hand puppet is the cornerstone of US power.
  - dalke 12y ago
    You said it wasn't in the interest of anyone, other than ISIS, Russia, and China, for the US to withdraw. I pointed out some other examples of people who probably would like the US out of the international stage. Your reply here makes it sound either like you didn't understand your original point - the hope that the US might withdraw - or that you believe the only people who are relevant are the US and those the US considers to be its opposition. I am certain there are people in Bolivia who would like the US to stop protecting US business interests in that country, and who will not be negatively affected by possible growth in Russian, Chinese, or ISIS power should the US become the isolationist state you says was "tempting to hope".