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Makes perfect sense. An engineering team full of sweaty dudes would definitely favor a qualified girl over an equally qualified guy. Men should start some sort

Makes perfect sense. An engineering team full of sweaty dudes would definitely favor a qualified girl over an equally qualified guy. Men should start some sort of movement to fight this inequality and be excessively loud about it.

juliangregorian 12y ago
Can't tell if sarcasm...
- crimsonalucard 12y ago
  If I said it was sarcasm I'd lose karma because I'd be sexist and I'd be criticizing one of the most strongest groups in America today. So essentially I'm not being sarcastic, I'm being 1000000% percent serious.
  - leaveyou 12y ago
    At least you admit the karma factor. My adversity to losing karma just suppressed the second part of my opinion..
- scriptedfate 12y ago
  Poe's Law to the rescue(?): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
belorn 12y ago
It won't work. First they will be "its all about equality, I assure you" but then it just become about power and who can get privilege over someone else. The sad truth is, people only want equality when it benefits themselves in some way. The same person who self-identify as pro-equality will fight tooth-over-nail to keep national laws that generate benefits for their gender.
- Crito 12y ago
  In such a movement, the lack of privilege would become a form of psuedo-power. The people with genuine power (the rich celebrities with large social followings) would dominate of course, but they would all argue they they were less privileged than the others and that their voices should therefore be given special status. They would use this psuedo-power to justify attempts to silence "privileged" people who in fact lacked genuine power (personal wealth and social influence).
  - Karunamon 12y ago
    ..they would use this psuedo-power to justify attempts to silence "privileged" people who in fact lacked genuine power Would it surprise you all to know that's kind of what's happening right now? Granted the actual impact usually isn't much more than a flimsy justification to level personal attacks against people they don't agree with on the internet, but the mindset definitely already exists.
    - Crito 12y ago
      I think we're all on the same page here. I have found that talking about things indirectly is a decent way to avoid annoying personal attacks (which, in my case, have reached out beyond the internet in the past, albeit with limited success.)
- munificent 12y ago
  > The sad truth is, people only want equality when it benefits themselves in some way. This is probably true but keep in mind that there are benefits in equality even for the group currently in power.
  - crimsonalucard 12y ago
    These things are usually counter intuitive. Although it benefits all, the benefits are not intuitive or readily apparent, thus it is never acted upon. For example, paying workers higher wages benefits the economy as a whole and in turn benefits the business owner, but this is counter intuitive logic and business owners tend not to desire raising wages.
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juliangregorian 12y ago

Can't tell if sarcasm...

crimsonalucard 12y ago
If I said it was sarcasm I'd lose karma because I'd be sexist and I'd be criticizing one of the most strongest groups in America today. So essentially I'm not being sarcastic, I'm being 1000000% percent serious.
- leaveyou 12y ago
  At least you admit the karma factor. My adversity to losing karma just suppressed the second part of my opinion..
scriptedfate 12y ago
Poe's Law to the rescue(?): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

belorn 12y ago

It won't work. First they will be "its all about equality, I assure you" but then it just become about power and who can get privilege over someone else. The sad truth is, people only want equality when it benefits themselves in some way. The same person who self-identify as pro-equality will fight tooth-over-nail to keep national laws that generate benefits for their gender.

Crito 12y ago
In such a movement, the lack of privilege would become a form of psuedo-power. The people with genuine power (the rich celebrities with large social followings) would dominate of course, but they would all argue they they were less privileged than the others and that their voices should therefore be given special status. They would use this psuedo-power to justify attempts to silence "privileged" people who in fact lacked genuine power (personal wealth and social influence).
- Karunamon 12y ago
  ..they would use this psuedo-power to justify attempts to silence "privileged" people who in fact lacked genuine power Would it surprise you all to know that's kind of what's happening right now? Granted the actual impact usually isn't much more than a flimsy justification to level personal attacks against people they don't agree with on the internet, but the mindset definitely already exists.
  - Crito 12y ago
    I think we're all on the same page here. I have found that talking about things indirectly is a decent way to avoid annoying personal attacks (which, in my case, have reached out beyond the internet in the past, albeit with limited success.)
munificent 12y ago
> The sad truth is, people only want equality when it benefits themselves in some way. This is probably true but keep in mind that there are benefits in equality even for the group currently in power.
- crimsonalucard 12y ago
  These things are usually counter intuitive. Although it benefits all, the benefits are not intuitive or readily apparent, thus it is never acted upon. For example, paying workers higher wages benefits the economy as a whole and in turn benefits the business owner, but this is counter intuitive logic and business owners tend not to desire raising wages.

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