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I think it's important to know what Libor is and how it's determined. > Each morning, just before 11 a.m. Greenwich Mean Time, a group of major banks are asked
by bko 12y ago
I think it's important to know what Libor is and how it's determined.
> Each morning, just before 11 a.m. Greenwich Mean Time, a group of major banks are asked the rate at which they could borrow funds from other banks. The banks confidentially send their results for each of the 15 loan maturities - ranging from overnight to one year - to the market intelligence firm Thomson Reuters. The organization throws out figures in the highest and lowest quartile and averages the remaining half. [0]
The rate is used to determine the interest paid on some mortgages (adjustable rate mortgages) as well as some securities (floating rate, pegged to Libor and swaps). You don't need to know too much about finance to suspect that the method of determining Libor (informal polling of banks) is ripe for manipulation. I don't think the manipulation was biased in any one direction but probably biased based on the particular banks opportunities for that day. Anyone investing in these products or with floating rate mortgages should (in theory) understand how their products work and understand the implications of the method that Libor is set.
This isn't meant to excuse collusion. Just because something is completely transparent and easily gamed doesn't excuse dishonesty. My comment is just meant to temper the response and perhaps consider a better system for determining benchmarks.
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- bboreham 12y ago> but probably biased based on the particular banks opportunities for that day. Not the banks, individuals. The people doing the manipulating were paid on P&L from particular sub-sets of the bank's overall position (their 'books'). So it is entirely possible that while those people's P&L went up on a given day, the bank's overall P&L went down.
- easytiger 12y agoAnd the counter party's pnl went up
- bboreham 12y agoThe bank as a whole has thousands or millions of counterparties.
- bko 12y agoGood point. People often forget that these are individuals responsible for this wrong-doing, not weirdly anthropomorphised corporate entities. The money that these banks pay doesn't come from some giant vault but from share-holders. If you have a 401k, you may be helping foot the bill. Without any criminal convictions, it seems more like a shake-down than justice.