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>There are considerably more providers than actual carriers in Germany The same is true in the US, they are called MVNO's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_
by unprepare 12y ago
>There are considerably more providers than actual carriers in Germany
The same is true in the US, they are called MVNO's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_mobile_virtual_network_operators http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_mobile_vi...
>What you say about subsidized phones is patently false
You are most likely talking about carriers allowing people to finance their phones in europe. Where you can pay an additional 20 euros a month to get the new iphone or whatever.
This is not at all what i'm talking about.
In the US, when you open a cell phone contract, you get a new phone at a discounted price. You sign a contract and you get to choose from the carriers selection of phones, older phones being completely free, newest phones costing 200 dollars.
The rest of the cost of the phone is hidden inside of the cost of the plan itself. There is no line item for how much you are paying for the phone each month, it is simply part of the pricing of the service itself. When your phone has been completely paid off, you will never know because your plans price will not change.
In europe, you finance phones, when they are paid off you stop paying for the phone and you then own the phone. your bill goes down. This is not at all the same behavior as the subsidized phone system in the US.
>German providers offer unlimited low-speed data with a varying amount of high-speed data
This is what im talking about, this does not exist in the US. There is no variation of speeds, you either have data or you dont.
There is some subversion by carriers using 'throttling' where they slow certain lines down to a crawl when the carrier decides they've used too much data for the month, but that is by no means a part of how plans are priced.
>So, yeah, your information seems to be a bit out of date
admittedly so, i haven't been in europe for more than a week since 2013 - and have never spent much time in germany
- furyg3 12y agoIt is also throttling in the EU (At least in NL). If I pay for an 'unlimited' data plan it's usually something like 2GB at 4G and then "2G" speeds (64kbps) after that. It's just throttling, as your phone remains connected at "4G". Now many providers have dropped the "unlimited 2G" data claim and just stating the rate limit after you use your high-speed bucket.
- unprepare 12y agoMaybe Finland is an exception here, but they are definitely tiered by speed, with no 'buckets' of data - Finland is the only country I've personally purchased an actual plan in, I've only used prepaid plans elsewhere in europe. https://kauppa.saunalahti.fi/#!/matkapuhelinliittymat https://kauppa.saunalahti.fi/#!/matkapuhelinliittymat https://www.dna.fi/liittymat https://www.dna.fi/liittymat
- pluma 12y ago> In the US, when you open a cell phone contract, you get a new phone at a discounted price. This has definitely been a thing in Germany in the past. In fact, I don't think I've seen ever the "pay $(x+y)/month for 24 months for the plan and phone, then pay only $x/month" model. Usually after 24 months you'd be offered a new phone (again for "free" or a radically "discounted" price). This may have changed since I stopped paying attention to long-term plans but you're wrong in thinking we never had what you have in the US. > There is no variation of speeds, you either have data or you dont. We also had hard data caps very early on. We just replaced that with "unlimited" plans with a cap on "high-speed" data at some point. That said, the low-speed data might as well not be available at all -- most people I know buy extra if they hit their high-speed cap. It's barely sufficient for checking your e-mail.