> whatever comes out of apt-get, it's almost always two years behind the last release and missing half the features I need As a sysadmin, I love that, but I've

> whatever comes out of apt-get, it's almost always two years behind the last release and missing half the features I need As a sysadmin, I love that, but I've had to come to terms with the fact that some developers have the attention span of hummingbirds who had Cap'n Crunch for breakfast ("two years old" is still very new software from an administration perspective). So, I've basically accepted the fact that whatever stack the developers use I'll build and maintain directly from upstream -- with the price being that the version and extensions/whatever used are frozen from the moment a given project starts.