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Oh yeah, that's what I really want: for FB to know everything about who I call and who calls me! </sarcasm>

by jonstokes 11y ago

pluma 11y ago
Got Facebook on your phone? They already do.
- dawson 11y ago
  No, they don't. EDIT: I was wrong, this is one of the permissions they require on Android, however, not on iOS as Apple doesn't make it available to third-party developers.
  - untog 11y ago
    On Android their app asks for "read call log" permissions. Luckily, I am running on root and can disable that access, but it's certainly possible.
    - MichaelGG 11y ago
      Almost all Android apps can do this in realtime, because to get the IMEI/device ID (a questionable thing in itself), Google decided you should also be required to have permissions to see who is calling/called. It's a major privacy violation, with Google directly encouraging it for no good reason. (Getting device ID should be a very rare, high-security permission; instead each app should get a unique app+deviceID. And seeing who is calling is likewise a rare thing that should be highly suspect. Or Google could add controls or do on-demand like MS and Apple do...)
      - _lce0 11y ago
        ..plus knowing which apps are you running. I can't think of a valid reason why an app should require such permissions besides information gathering.. there are API for making you app talk, or discover other apps
  - pluma 11y ago
    Are the permissions different on iOS? Because I'm pretty sure they ask to see your call status and caller information on Android.
    - dawson 11y ago
      Yup I was wrong, different on iOS.
interg12 11y ago
Mass market users don't seem to prioritize these kind of values when making software decisions.
- kristopolous 11y ago
  that's a problem. Especially because they claim to care passionately about it. I think more realistically computers are Still mysterious magic boxes to them to some extent
r00fus 11y ago
Exactly my thoughts... except this app is exactly in Facebook's wheelhouse. Who else could do this? When Facebook introduced their phone (well, just their android launcher) a couple of years ago, I thought this kind of feature would be a major selling point. While I would never use it, I know many many people who would be thrilled for something like this. I wonder if the WhatsApp acquisition price just got validated.

Oh yeah, that's what I really want: for FB to know everything about who I call and who calls me! </sarcasm>

pluma 11y ago

Got Facebook on your phone? They already do.

dawson 11y ago
No, they don't. EDIT: I was wrong, this is one of the permissions they require on Android, however, not on iOS as Apple doesn't make it available to third-party developers.
- untog 11y ago
  On Android their app asks for "read call log" permissions. Luckily, I am running on root and can disable that access, but it's certainly possible.
  - MichaelGG 11y ago
    Almost all Android apps can do this in realtime, because to get the IMEI/device ID (a questionable thing in itself), Google decided you should also be required to have permissions to see who is calling/called. It's a major privacy violation, with Google directly encouraging it for no good reason. (Getting device ID should be a very rare, high-security permission; instead each app should get a unique app+deviceID. And seeing who is calling is likewise a rare thing that should be highly suspect. Or Google could add controls or do on-demand like MS and Apple do...)
    - _lce0 11y ago
      ..plus knowing which apps are you running. I can't think of a valid reason why an app should require such permissions besides information gathering.. there are API for making you app talk, or discover other apps
- pluma 11y ago
  Are the permissions different on iOS? Because I'm pretty sure they ask to see your call status and caller information on Android.
  - dawson 11y ago
    Yup I was wrong, different on iOS.

interg12 11y ago

Mass market users don't seem to prioritize these kind of values when making software decisions.

kristopolous 11y ago
that's a problem. Especially because they claim to care passionately about it. I think more realistically computers are Still mysterious magic boxes to them to some extent

r00fus 11y ago

Exactly my thoughts... except this app is exactly in Facebook's wheelhouse. Who else could do this? When Facebook introduced their phone (well, just their android launcher) a couple of years ago, I thought this kind of feature would be a major selling point. While I would never use it, I know many many people who would be thrilled for something like this. I wonder if the WhatsApp acquisition price just got validated.