> The problem being everyone has had a runoff with the small proportion of non-civilized advocates Everyone, apparently, except for me. Yet despite the dearth

> The problem being everyone has had a runoff with the small proportion of non-civilized advocates Everyone, apparently, except for me. Yet despite the dearth of obnoxious advocates, I have run into dozens or more who complain about their existence. I think the obnoxious advocate trope is just a trope, and I'm convinced the the vast majority of complainers are complaining about the idea of a reification of the trope or something they've seen on television, rather than any actual live instances of the trope they've had run-ins with.