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Oh no! Exactly the point I was not trying to make! The problem being everyone has had a runoff with the small proportion of non-civilized advocates, leading t

by VLM 12y ago

Oh no! Exactly the point I was not trying to make! The problem being everyone has had a runoff with the small proportion of non-civilized advocates, leading to fear / awkwardness / uncomfortable feeling with the majority of civilized participants. And the culture doesn't self police strongly enough to keep the non-civilized fraction under control. No one wants to sit thru a lecture of "my self denial makes me superior" "I'm morally superior" "meat is murder" "hey wanna see some slaughterhouse pixs" "hey look at me this is my special snowflake reason" "I'm saving the planet, all by myself". OPs question of why vegetarians are looked at like space aliens is because its impossible to predict if the next couple minutes are going to be agony or fun. Probably gonna be all right, but... (edited to add, come on guys, cut it out with the world doesn't exist stuff, my very own sister pulled the "hey look at me this is my special snowflake reason" for a couple months when she was about 14... now stand by for a round of "well I'm not sure sisters exist in the real world, after all I only have brothers and my buddy is an only child so citation needed...") (And slayed0 is a better writer than I am...)

Luc 12y ago
Are you trolling man? Trolling's not cool, you know.
RodericDay 12y ago
Have they really? In my experience prying into people retelling this story, the whole vegetarian zealot thing is one of those moral panic things that everyone claims to have had run-ins with but really most people are just citing the one main caricature. I've certainly seen way, way more people say "I'll eat two steaks for every sanctimonious vegetarian I engage with" than actual vegetarians, particularly after becoming an engineer.
have_humility 12y ago
> The problem being everyone has had a runoff with the small proportion of non-civilized advocates Everyone, apparently, except for me. Yet despite the dearth of obnoxious advocates, I have run into dozens or more who complain about their existence. I think the obnoxious advocate trope is just a trope, and I'm convinced the the vast majority of complainers are complaining about the idea of a reification of the trope or something they've seen on television, rather than any actual live instances of the trope they've had run-ins with.

by VLM 12y ago

Luc 12y ago

Are you trolling man? Trolling's not cool, you know.

RodericDay 12y ago

Have they really? In my experience prying into people retelling this story, the whole vegetarian zealot thing is one of those moral panic things that everyone claims to have had run-ins with but really most people are just citing the one main caricature. I've certainly seen way, way more people say "I'll eat two steaks for every sanctimonious vegetarian I engage with" than actual vegetarians, particularly after becoming an engineer.

have_humility 12y ago

> The problem being everyone has had a runoff with the small proportion of non-civilized advocates Everyone, apparently, except for me. Yet despite the dearth of obnoxious advocates, I have run into dozens or more who complain about their existence. I think the obnoxious advocate trope is just a trope, and I'm convinced the the vast majority of complainers are complaining about the idea of a reification of the trope or something they've seen on television, rather than any actual live instances of the trope they've had run-ins with.