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Is this only for satelite TV service providers or cable too? Also, is this strictly a UK thing? I have not noticed anything similar in the US but from what I

by rdudek 11y ago

Is this only for satelite TV service providers or cable too? Also, is this strictly a UK thing? I have not noticed anything similar in the US but from what I can tell, all the bars I go to all have Comcast boxes. And a lot of times, you can see a rack of Comcast equipment stacked up either behind counters or right at the entrance behind the person that checks people in.

knd775 11y ago
Most likely a UK thing. There is some odd stuff there when it comes to TV and "licenses"
- klez 11y ago
  Not really, we have it in Italy too, but it shows a martini glass. Sorry I can't find a picture, but it looks like this one http://business.sky.it/statics/images/business/Bar/offerta_bar/abusivi/bicchierino_layer.png http://business.sky.it/statics/images/business/Bar/offerta_b...
- rmc 11y ago
  Ireland & Germany also have (ish) TV licences
- to3m 11y ago
  It's the noun, so "\"licences\"". Sky is a private business, so the arrangement here is an ordinary licencing arrangement between one business and another. If you pay £25/mo, or whatever, Sky give you the right to watch men kicking a ball about at home; if you want to show the same thing to paying customers, on the other hand, you need to be paying more. Sky pay through the nose for the rights to all this nonsense and they have to make the money back somehow. The TV "licence" (a tax, pretty much) is separate matter.
  - pluma 11y ago
    According to my dictionary "license" is also used as the noun (equivalent to "licence") in American English. My dictionary may be wrong, though.
    - to3m 11y ago
      The entire point is that the TV licence is a UK thing ;)
      - pluma 11y ago
        But if we were talking about the colour of the BBC logo, would you correct Americans who say "color"? Honest question. I'm a non-native speaker, but my understanding has been that you only keep the original spelling for proper names and terms of the trade (i.e. anything you wouldn't translate if it was non-English, like "Grand Prix" in sports or "vert" in heraldry).
        to3m 11y ago
        My comment wasn't entirely serious. But it seems that "TV Licence" actually is written that way, capitalization and all - see, e.g., https://www.gov.uk/tv-licence https://www.gov.uk/tv-licence) - suggesting it is a technical term.
dbloom 11y ago
Comcast charges $34.95/mo for a sports pack for bars and restaurants: http://business.comcast.com/tv/restaurants/plans-pricing http://business.comcast.com/tv/restaurants/plans-pricing ...but only $8.95/mo for the same sports pack for waiting room TVs and other "office" uses: http://business.comcast.com/tv/offices/plans-pricing http://business.comcast.com/tv/offices/plans-pricing Because Comcast uses cable (instead of satellite), they actually have two-way communication with most of their equipment. And even one-way-only equipment (like CableCard and DTA) can still be restricted to only work on the encryption keys for a very small geographical area. If Comcast equipment is moved to a location other than the address where it's supposed to be, it usually won't work. For what it's worth, a lot of bars and restaurants use DirecTV (it has popular exclusive sports packages). Even though it's satellite-based, I've never noticed any sort of "pub glass" or the licensing indicator. So I'm not sure how they enforce licensing.
- moey 11y ago
  The link you pasted says it's actually $189.95/month for the sport pack. Also, this is aside from any premium sports subscriptions like NHL/NBA League Pass/NFL Sunday Ticket channels, which charge based on the occupancy of the bar/restaurant and costs thousands of dollars per year.
jamesbrownuhh 11y ago
This particular approach is strictly a Sky (UK) thing, although I believe that Sky in other countries (e.g. Germany, Italy) adopt a similar technique. UK cable operators don't sell commercial subscriptions to premises, so the pint glass doesn't apply, although the surprise numbers are still present, to catch any unauthorised streaming.
DanBC 11y ago
There have been a number of courtcases involving pub owners and tv sports rights owners. Some people wanted to use domestic contract for their pubs. Other people bypassed local providers and used their satellite dishes to receive foreign broadcasts. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25849670 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25849670 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17150054 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17150054 None of this has anything to do with TV licences.

by rdudek 11y ago

knd775 11y ago

Most likely a UK thing. There is some odd stuff there when it comes to TV and "licenses"

klez 11y ago
Not really, we have it in Italy too, but it shows a martini glass. Sorry I can't find a picture, but it looks like this one http://business.sky.it/statics/images/business/Bar/offerta_bar/abusivi/bicchierino_layer.png http://business.sky.it/statics/images/business/Bar/offerta_b...
rmc 11y ago
Ireland & Germany also have (ish) TV licences
to3m 11y ago
It's the noun, so "\"licences\"". Sky is a private business, so the arrangement here is an ordinary licencing arrangement between one business and another. If you pay £25/mo, or whatever, Sky give you the right to watch men kicking a ball about at home; if you want to show the same thing to paying customers, on the other hand, you need to be paying more. Sky pay through the nose for the rights to all this nonsense and they have to make the money back somehow. The TV "licence" (a tax, pretty much) is separate matter.
- pluma 11y ago
  According to my dictionary "license" is also used as the noun (equivalent to "licence") in American English. My dictionary may be wrong, though.
  - to3m 11y ago
    The entire point is that the TV licence is a UK thing ;)
    - pluma 11y ago
      But if we were talking about the colour of the BBC logo, would you correct Americans who say "color"? Honest question. I'm a non-native speaker, but my understanding has been that you only keep the original spelling for proper names and terms of the trade (i.e. anything you wouldn't translate if it was non-English, like "Grand Prix" in sports or "vert" in heraldry).
      - to3m 11y ago
        My comment wasn't entirely serious. But it seems that "TV Licence" actually is written that way, capitalization and all - see, e.g., https://www.gov.uk/tv-licence https://www.gov.uk/tv-licence) - suggesting it is a technical term.

dbloom 11y ago

Comcast charges $34.95/mo for a sports pack for bars and restaurants: http://business.comcast.com/tv/restaurants/plans-pricing http://business.comcast.com/tv/restaurants/plans-pricing ...but only $8.95/mo for the same sports pack for waiting room TVs and other "office" uses: http://business.comcast.com/tv/offices/plans-pricing http://business.comcast.com/tv/offices/plans-pricing Because Comcast uses cable (instead of satellite), they actually have two-way communication with most of their equipment. And even one-way-only equipment (like CableCard and DTA) can still be restricted to only work on the encryption keys for a very small geographical area. If Comcast equipment is moved to a location other than the address where it's supposed to be, it usually won't work. For what it's worth, a lot of bars and restaurants use DirecTV (it has popular exclusive sports packages). Even though it's satellite-based, I've never noticed any sort of "pub glass" or the licensing indicator. So I'm not sure how they enforce licensing.

moey 11y ago
The link you pasted says it's actually $189.95/month for the sport pack. Also, this is aside from any premium sports subscriptions like NHL/NBA League Pass/NFL Sunday Ticket channels, which charge based on the occupancy of the bar/restaurant and costs thousands of dollars per year.

jamesbrownuhh 11y ago

This particular approach is strictly a Sky (UK) thing, although I believe that Sky in other countries (e.g. Germany, Italy) adopt a similar technique. UK cable operators don't sell commercial subscriptions to premises, so the pint glass doesn't apply, although the surprise numbers are still present, to catch any unauthorised streaming.

DanBC 11y ago

There have been a number of courtcases involving pub owners and tv sports rights owners. Some people wanted to use domestic contract for their pubs. Other people bypassed local providers and used their satellite dishes to receive foreign broadcasts. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25849670 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25849670 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17150054 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17150054 None of this has anything to do with TV licences.