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You can probably list the organizations (outside of China, perhaps) that have over a hundred million of users in a twitter message - (Facebook;Twitter;Google;Wa

by beagle3 12y ago

You can probably list the organizations (outside of China, perhaps) that have over a hundred million of users in a twitter message - (Facebook;Twitter;Google;Walmart;WhatsApp;Instagram;Hotmail;Snapchat;Yahoo;IRS[0];Blizzard;AOL;AT&T;Verizon) is probably more than 30% of the list already. And AFAIK not a single one of them uses LDAP - but assume one of them does. So, practically speaking - does it matter? [0] And equivalent for each country with >70M people

hyc_symas 12y ago
You're quite wrong here. Google, AT&T and Verizon on your list use OpenLDAP. OpenLDAP scales to billions of users in a single instance, and of course it distributes across multiple nodes for even greater scaling as needed. Most of the telcos around the world use it now; it scales far beyond every other data storage technology out there. http://symas.com/docs/2014-LOADays-jkozyra.pdf http://symas.com/docs/2014-LOADays-jkozyra.pdf 80% of the US population that owns cellphones are OpenLDAP users, whether they realize it or not. 90% of the US population that subscribes to cable TV (Comcast, Time-Warner, etc.) as well. Nothing else actually works for hundreds of millions of users. These companies know, they've tried a lot of "solutions" already.
- beagle3 12y ago
  Then I'm glad to stand corrected - I suppose I'm horribly out of date from the days they tried other "solutions". I'm less surprised about AT&T and Verizon, more surprised about Google. My own personal experience with LDAP in general (and some with OpenLDAP in particular) dates back to 2000 or so -- and at some point I just gave up on the complex and unreliable beast that it was (for whatever reason, BDB would occasionally lock up or get corrupted) - but I know a lot has changed since, LMDB is amazing -- I guess it is time for another look.
  - hyc_symas 12y ago
    OpenLDAP didn't start to become seriously usable until about 2003 (that's when HP dropped SunDS and adopted OpenLDAP for all of their global infrastructure). A lot of work went into it in the 2001-2002 timeframe to get it there. Yeah, a lot has changed, you've missed a couple generations of advancements. BDB's complexity was definitely a pain, but that's all in the past.

by beagle3 12y ago

hyc_symas 12y ago

You're quite wrong here. Google, AT&T and Verizon on your list use OpenLDAP. OpenLDAP scales to billions of users in a single instance, and of course it distributes across multiple nodes for even greater scaling as needed. Most of the telcos around the world use it now; it scales far beyond every other data storage technology out there. http://symas.com/docs/2014-LOADays-jkozyra.pdf http://symas.com/docs/2014-LOADays-jkozyra.pdf 80% of the US population that owns cellphones are OpenLDAP users, whether they realize it or not. 90% of the US population that subscribes to cable TV (Comcast, Time-Warner, etc.) as well. Nothing else actually works for hundreds of millions of users. These companies know, they've tried a lot of "solutions" already.

beagle3 12y ago
Then I'm glad to stand corrected - I suppose I'm horribly out of date from the days they tried other "solutions". I'm less surprised about AT&T and Verizon, more surprised about Google. My own personal experience with LDAP in general (and some with OpenLDAP in particular) dates back to 2000 or so -- and at some point I just gave up on the complex and unreliable beast that it was (for whatever reason, BDB would occasionally lock up or get corrupted) - but I know a lot has changed since, LMDB is amazing -- I guess it is time for another look.
- hyc_symas 12y ago
  OpenLDAP didn't start to become seriously usable until about 2003 (that's when HP dropped SunDS and adopted OpenLDAP for all of their global infrastructure). A lot of work went into it in the 2001-2002 timeframe to get it there. Yeah, a lot has changed, you've missed a couple generations of advancements. BDB's complexity was definitely a pain, but that's all in the past.