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Good. Current laws and views are very specie-ist. It's awkward for current society but some primates and dolphins are obviously sentient and should have protect
by MichaelGG 12y ago
Good. Current laws and views are very specie-ist. It's awkward for current society but some primates and dolphins are obviously sentient and should have protection. Of course they can't just fit in easily, so I suppose they have to be treated in some ways like a very retarded child.
Another issue: It's OK if a human engages in sexual activity with another human, but if a non-human does it, all of a sudden it's a terrible crime? Dolphins apparently rape for fun, so we can assume they are consenting if they go initiate or respond well to human contact.
I don't actually care about animals from an empathetic level, I just dislike the inelegance that happens from special-casing laws.
- sigzero 12y agoProtection is fine. Personhood is not.
- pvaldes 12y agoIs more about domination (or exploration, penis is used to touch things also, dolphins don't have hands) than about fun. (Some) dolphins rape females and also other younger male dolphins and some male dolphins kill baby dolphins and also porpoises. Is relatively normal in their societies. Some dolphins are nicer (from our own point of view) than others. So if dolphins are people, should be respect its culture or try to educate this dolphins to not do this? Why should an rapist dolphin have more protection than a virtuous non-rapist and beautiful bluefin tuna, or even than a virtuous non-rapist, sociable and vegan anchovy citizen? This is the type of nonsense questions and problems that we are creating. We spend hours and hours talking about this problems and meanwhile, the sixth extinction runs faster... Everybody is talking about if bottlenose dolphins are people or not, nobody talks about the 80 last californian vaquitas remaining in the planet. Is very sad.