>and he wasn't a master designer like, say, Ive, You mean, Dieter Rams, of course. Ive, for all his talents, is a rehash of a master. If anything Ive is a gre

>and he wasn't a master designer like, say, Ive, You mean, Dieter Rams, of course. Ive, for all his talents, is a rehash of a master. If anything Ive is a great example of a multifaceted non-master who knew how to handle two worlds: the no-holds-barred big business world and the artsy design and marketing world. I really see him as a Jobs-like character. Jobs had Woz. Ive had Rams, indirectly of course.