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No Chrome extension can know which images are being used to track email opens. If you want to disable that sort of tracking you should disable images/external r

by bramgg 11y ago

No Chrome extension can know which images are being used to track email opens. If you want to disable that sort of tracking you should disable images/external resources completely. Otherwise you're just getting a false sense of security.

rsync 11y ago
I use (al)pine. Nobody has ever, in any way, received information about my email opens. I speed through email with keystrokes and zero mouse movement, and I can use email with ease on even the slowest of satellite or 2G network access. Finally - and this is my favorite part - since I use pine, and my engineers at rsync.net also use pine, not one single intra-company email has ever traversed the Internet. Ever. All intra-company email is simply a local copy operation on a single mail server.
- themodelplumber 11y ago
  That's pretty neat to hear. I used to use Pine on the Seattle Community Network back in the early 1990s and have been thinking of trying it again. Have you documented your setup somewhere?
- StavrosK 11y ago
  > since I use pine, and my engineers at rsync.net also use pine, not one single intra-company email has ever traversed the Internet. Ever. What does the mail client have to do with this? I use Thunderbird with Gmail, and, since all of my contacts use Gmail, not one single email has ever traversed the Internet, ever. With TLS-enabled mail servers, this isn't very relevant a metric.
  - 1ris 11y ago
    >With TLS-enabled mail servers, this isn't very relevant a metric. They still have the meta-data, the actually interesting stuff.
    - StavrosK 11y ago
      They know that some email was sent by someone to someone somewhere around that time, but nothing more.
      - 1ris 11y ago
        Nothing more? That all you need to know in 99% of the time. Just in case you didn't get the memo: ‘We Kill People Based on Metadata’. http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2014/may/10/we-kill-people-based-metadata/ http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2014/may/10/we-kill-peo...
        StavrosK 11y ago
        Really? You're equating knowing who sent what when and how to just knowing that something was sent at some point, from an unknown origin to an unknown destination?
- ams6110 11y ago
  I used to use pine and as an email client it's very nice but I have such engrained muscle memory for emacs that I switched to gnus and then later to notmuch. Also increasingly, mail clients are sending only html without a text/plain part, and w3m on emacs renders those nicely.

by bramgg 11y ago

rsync 11y ago

I use (al)pine. Nobody has ever, in any way, received information about my email opens. I speed through email with keystrokes and zero mouse movement, and I can use email with ease on even the slowest of satellite or 2G network access. Finally - and this is my favorite part - since I use pine, and my engineers at rsync.net also use pine, not one single intra-company email has ever traversed the Internet. Ever. All intra-company email is simply a local copy operation on a single mail server.

themodelplumber 11y ago
That's pretty neat to hear. I used to use Pine on the Seattle Community Network back in the early 1990s and have been thinking of trying it again. Have you documented your setup somewhere?
StavrosK 11y ago
> since I use pine, and my engineers at rsync.net also use pine, not one single intra-company email has ever traversed the Internet. Ever. What does the mail client have to do with this? I use Thunderbird with Gmail, and, since all of my contacts use Gmail, not one single email has ever traversed the Internet, ever. With TLS-enabled mail servers, this isn't very relevant a metric.
- 1ris 11y ago
  >With TLS-enabled mail servers, this isn't very relevant a metric. They still have the meta-data, the actually interesting stuff.
  - StavrosK 11y ago
    They know that some email was sent by someone to someone somewhere around that time, but nothing more.
    - 1ris 11y ago
      Nothing more? That all you need to know in 99% of the time. Just in case you didn't get the memo: ‘We Kill People Based on Metadata’. http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2014/may/10/we-kill-people-based-metadata/ http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2014/may/10/we-kill-peo...
      - StavrosK 11y ago
        Really? You're equating knowing who sent what when and how to just knowing that something was sent at some point, from an unknown origin to an unknown destination?
ams6110 11y ago
I used to use pine and as an email client it's very nice but I have such engrained muscle memory for emacs that I switched to gnus and then later to notmuch. Also increasingly, mail clients are sending only html without a text/plain part, and w3m on emacs renders those nicely.