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Whoosh! By the way, the MBTI has been shown to correlate strongly with the NEO/big5 so your very negative comment is exposed as one of those typical HN negativ

Whoosh! By the way, the MBTI has been shown to correlate strongly with the NEO/big5 so your very negative comment is exposed as one of those typical HN negative comments. MBTI is still the most used personality system even though it isn't empirically keyed. The main issue with this research, however, is that the MBTI tests are often subpar. I won't trust these results unless they tell which test they administered.

ryan-allen 11y ago
So negativity is fine on HN as long as it's 'passive agressive' and 'sarcastic', got it! EDIT: By the way I wasn't talking about the MBTI, if you care to read the thread. Try reading instead of skimming next time.
- jfoutz 11y ago
  You're getting beat up and i feel at least partly responsible. I agree with you wholeheartedly MBTI is as much psychology as Mentos in Diet Coke is chemistry. It's a child's toy, a fun afternoon pastime. Perhaps it will inspire a few to actually go learn things, but this use is bordering on dangerous. For a long time I had no respect for economics. Or psychology for that matter. The more I learn, the more i see how fabulously difficult it is to tease information out of data. Psychology has got to be the worst. There are a zillion reasons, but right off the bat, people lie. People lie for so many reasons. With computers, I can almost always tease out a crisp yes or no answer to any question i wish. I'm sure the vast majority of HN users default to this kind of thinking, that if i just look hard enough, I'll get that crisp yes or no. And obviously, you don't have crisp yes or no's because you're not looking hard enough. There's an xkcd about everything is just physics. I believe that's true, all of chemistry is just physics, all of biology is just chemistry, all of psychology is just biology. People fail to appreciate psychology is a better indicator of what can be known. I can't know physics. Quantum Mechanics is famously hard and non intuitive. In every field it's harder and harder to push that edge of knowledge out, because reality at the edges isn't what you think it is. no one "knows" the millions of lines of code that compose the linux kernel. It's too complex. We can dig in and poke around, and some people have fantastically deep understandings, but, 15M is too much. we just can't do it. Anyway, i missed the deleted comment, i'm sure it was horrible. It wasn't my intention to derail your point. edit Oh, it was flagged. Oh, it was you. Ah well, point still stands.

ryan-allen 11y ago

So negativity is fine on HN as long as it's 'passive agressive' and 'sarcastic', got it! EDIT: By the way I wasn't talking about the MBTI, if you care to read the thread. Try reading instead of skimming next time.

jfoutz 11y ago
You're getting beat up and i feel at least partly responsible. I agree with you wholeheartedly MBTI is as much psychology as Mentos in Diet Coke is chemistry. It's a child's toy, a fun afternoon pastime. Perhaps it will inspire a few to actually go learn things, but this use is bordering on dangerous. For a long time I had no respect for economics. Or psychology for that matter. The more I learn, the more i see how fabulously difficult it is to tease information out of data. Psychology has got to be the worst. There are a zillion reasons, but right off the bat, people lie. People lie for so many reasons. With computers, I can almost always tease out a crisp yes or no answer to any question i wish. I'm sure the vast majority of HN users default to this kind of thinking, that if i just look hard enough, I'll get that crisp yes or no. And obviously, you don't have crisp yes or no's because you're not looking hard enough. There's an xkcd about everything is just physics. I believe that's true, all of chemistry is just physics, all of biology is just chemistry, all of psychology is just biology. People fail to appreciate psychology is a better indicator of what can be known. I can't know physics. Quantum Mechanics is famously hard and non intuitive. In every field it's harder and harder to push that edge of knowledge out, because reality at the edges isn't what you think it is. no one "knows" the millions of lines of code that compose the linux kernel. It's too complex. We can dig in and poke around, and some people have fantastically deep understandings, but, 15M is too much. we just can't do it. Anyway, i missed the deleted comment, i'm sure it was horrible. It wasn't my intention to derail your point. edit Oh, it was flagged. Oh, it was you. Ah well, point still stands.