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> Free > We use a BSD license. I see in no way how a BSD License is free. I think the word Open-source is better suited here. Maybe it's nitpicking. I wish

> Free > We use a BSD license. I see in no way how a BSD License is free. I think the word Open-source is better suited here. Maybe it's nitpicking. I wish English had more words that describe "free"-ness (gratis vs frei) etc. EDIT: Okay a few words later they're also saying freedom. So I guess it's not nitpicking as I don't see how BSD gives you 'freedom'.

IanCal 12y ago
> EDIT: Okay a few words later they're also saying freedom. So I guess it's not nitpicking as I don't see how BSD gives you 'freedom'. Perhaps I'm really misunderstanding this but with a BSD license I thought I could: * Take the code and use it for free * Take the code and use it for free to make money * Take the code and add to it and re-release it open-source (as long as I include the same license) * Take the code and add to it and re-release it closed-source (as long as I include the same license) Sounds like I've got quite a lot of freedom in what I do with it. The only things that I can't do (as far as I can tell) are: * Redistribute the code without that license * Say the the creators endorse my work without permission
mattwestcott 12y ago
> I see in no way how a BSD License is free. The FSF are quite happy to describe it as a free software licence https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#ModifiedBSD https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#ModifiedBSD - not sure who else's definition you'd rather use...?
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cbd1984 12y ago
Free Software includes BSD, always has, and certainly does under the Free Software Definition. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html (This statement is void if the BSD license is old enough to contain the Obnoxious Advertising Clause. No BSD license variants do these days, primarily because it was Obnoxious. More information: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bsd.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bsd.html http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/99/09/02/189210/berkeley-removes-advertising-clause http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/99/09/02/189210/berkeley-remov... The Amazing Disappearing BSD License (or, A License Gets De-Clause-d): https://urchin.earth.li/~twic/The_Amazing_Disappearing_BSD_License.html https://urchin.earth.li/~twic/The_Amazing_Disappearing_BSD_L... )

IanCal 12y ago

> EDIT: Okay a few words later they're also saying freedom. So I guess it's not nitpicking as I don't see how BSD gives you 'freedom'. Perhaps I'm really misunderstanding this but with a BSD license I thought I could: * Take the code and use it for free * Take the code and use it for free to make money * Take the code and add to it and re-release it open-source (as long as I include the same license) * Take the code and add to it and re-release it closed-source (as long as I include the same license) Sounds like I've got quite a lot of freedom in what I do with it. The only things that I can't do (as far as I can tell) are: * Redistribute the code without that license * Say the the creators endorse my work without permission

mattwestcott 12y ago

> I see in no way how a BSD License is free. The FSF are quite happy to describe it as a free software licence https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#ModifiedBSD https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#ModifiedBSD - not sure who else's definition you'd rather use...?

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cbd1984 12y ago

Free Software includes BSD, always has, and certainly does under the Free Software Definition. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html (This statement is void if the BSD license is old enough to contain the Obnoxious Advertising Clause. No BSD license variants do these days, primarily because it was Obnoxious. More information: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bsd.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bsd.html http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/99/09/02/189210/berkeley-removes-advertising-clause http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/99/09/02/189210/berkeley-remov... The Amazing Disappearing BSD License (or, A License Gets De-Clause-d): https://urchin.earth.li/~twic/The_Amazing_Disappearing_BSD_License.html https://urchin.earth.li/~twic/The_Amazing_Disappearing_BSD_L... )