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> Being tarred with the same brush as addicts is quite offensive Actually, that attitude itself is offensive. Addiction is a serious mental health problem, and

by tmp-20150107 11y ago

> Being tarred with the same brush as addicts is quite offensive Actually, that attitude itself is offensive. Addiction is a serious mental health problem, and should not be stigmatized.

facetube 11y ago
Agree wholeheartedly. Even beyond the acute condition itself, it's been shown that there are genetic factors that likely increase cravings for certain drugs, and may predict development of dependence. For alcoholism, OPRM1 A118G has some substantial evidence behind it. Shaming people for drug addiction isn't any different than shaming a diabetic IMO.
- velox_io 11y ago
  Yes, some may have a genetic disposition, but they still have choices. There is a difference between substance abuse and treating a medical condition. Simply down voting people because you disagree with them isn't cool IMO. edit: Myself (and many others) have also been stigmatised from getting the correct medication because of a fear becoming addicts.
  - DanBC 11y ago
    You're being downvoted for your stigmatising ignorant comments about people with addiction. Downvote to disagree is going to happen; it's not forbidden on HN (PG has a post somewhere talking about the acceptability of using downvote to disagree) although there are a large number of people who strongly dislike downvote to disagree.
  - facetube 11y ago
    People with depression have choices. People with OCD have choices. People with diabetes have choices. People with schizophrenia have choices. Having choices doesn't disqualify something from being a medical condition.
  - DanBC 11y ago
    > Myself (and many others) have also been stigmatised from getting the correct medication because of a fear becoming addicts. No. For most people with long term pain opiate meds are the wrong choice. Those people need rapid access to specialist pain clinics; cbt for pain; short term pain meds to enable them to take part in physiotherapist guided exercise; and possibly weightloss. Opiate pain meds for long term use are not effective for most people; and are addictive. It is wrong to give someone a med that won't work and that has side effects and that carries a risk of addiction when there are less risky, non-addicting, better solutions to try first.

> Being tarred with the same brush as addicts is quite offensive Actually, that attitude itself is offensive. Addiction is a serious mental health problem, and should not be stigmatized.

facetube 11y ago

Agree wholeheartedly. Even beyond the acute condition itself, it's been shown that there are genetic factors that likely increase cravings for certain drugs, and may predict development of dependence. For alcoholism, OPRM1 A118G has some substantial evidence behind it. Shaming people for drug addiction isn't any different than shaming a diabetic IMO.

velox_io 11y ago
Yes, some may have a genetic disposition, but they still have choices. There is a difference between substance abuse and treating a medical condition. Simply down voting people because you disagree with them isn't cool IMO. edit: Myself (and many others) have also been stigmatised from getting the correct medication because of a fear becoming addicts.
- DanBC 11y ago
  You're being downvoted for your stigmatising ignorant comments about people with addiction. Downvote to disagree is going to happen; it's not forbidden on HN (PG has a post somewhere talking about the acceptability of using downvote to disagree) although there are a large number of people who strongly dislike downvote to disagree.
- facetube 11y ago
  People with depression have choices. People with OCD have choices. People with diabetes have choices. People with schizophrenia have choices. Having choices doesn't disqualify something from being a medical condition.
- DanBC 11y ago
  > Myself (and many others) have also been stigmatised from getting the correct medication because of a fear becoming addicts. No. For most people with long term pain opiate meds are the wrong choice. Those people need rapid access to specialist pain clinics; cbt for pain; short term pain meds to enable them to take part in physiotherapist guided exercise; and possibly weightloss. Opiate pain meds for long term use are not effective for most people; and are addictive. It is wrong to give someone a med that won't work and that has side effects and that carries a risk of addiction when there are less risky, non-addicting, better solutions to try first.