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Welfare is not the answer. It just isn't satisfying being handed a check for doing nothing. Jiro Ono (the sushi craftsman) is an inspiration on how hard work
by nightski 12y ago
Welfare is not the answer. It just isn't satisfying being handed a check for doing nothing. Jiro Ono (the sushi craftsman) is an inspiration on how hard work can really provide satisfaction in ones life.
What I would hope is that with machines covering the necessities we see a huge surge in the arts, education, and craft.
A perfect example is the craft beer movement (tap rooms are popping up everywhere by people who enjoy their craft - and it is glorious!). It's generating quite a bit of money too.
- moe 12y agoIt just isn't satisfying being handed a check for doing nothing. You don't get the check for doing nothing. You get the check for doing whatever you want. Most people would find that very satisfying.
- nine_k 12y agoThis is illogical. Some people will just enjoy "doing nothing", like watching TV or meditating. Does drinking booze and shooting yourself in the process count as "doing whatever you want"? Either you pay unconditionally, or you hire and pay for specific work.
- JoeAltmaier 12y agoHard work is not defined by the paycheck. The satisfaction loop is nowhere near the paycheck in the flow diagram.
- nightski 12y agoOf course. But the paycheck encourages you to do work that benefits others (or otherwise they wouldn't pay for it, right?). Isn't that a good thing?
- scrollaway 12y agoWork that benefits others does not necessarily pay. Work that pays does not necessarily benefit others. I don't know what world you live in.
- nightski 12y agoI am having a hard time thinking of work where you get paid yet you provide no benefit to the payee? Maybe some further insight is in order (since I am living in another world apparently). I was not speaking in absolutes. Of course there are exceptions. All I was saying is that it provides some incentive... Not only that, but you are applying today's economics to a dramatically different situation in which basic needs are met by machines. I don't think that works.
- sukilot 12y agoBenefiting the payee is not always productive. If I pay you to steal from Paul, that is not net positive work.
- a_c_s 12y agoMany of the jobs that help people out don't scale well, like social workers: they tend to have a high stress, high workload, poorly compensated job. I'm sure there are plenty of people with an interest in helping people out in similar ways that aren't willing to put up with the low pay.