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I think the infosec community needs to grow up. Vauge non-specific demands of a loose and fluid group with little to no control over it's members set the group
by forgottenpass 12y ago
I think the infosec community needs to grow up.
Vauge non-specific demands of a loose and fluid group with little to no control over it's members set the group up for inevitable failure.
Without critical thought, it appears to be a reasonable request. Which is why the people who never want to listen to The Cavalry or EFF say it, and why the rest of us propagate the idea. But it's a trap.
- pyre 12y ago> little to no control over it's members There is some amount of control when you are accepting and possibly celebratory in response to behaviour that should be discouraged. For example, if you never sexually harass someone yourself, but you are silent while other do so, you are ceding a control that you have over the situation. If more people that were respected in the community called out these behaviours when they happen, you may see them happen less (though this isn't an absolute control, so they wouldn't go away completely).
- hobs 12y agoAt the same time, you can always claim that "the community isnt doing enough" because "enough" and "the community" as so ill defined that you can always castigate "the community". It is a complete waste of time.
- Karunamon 12y agoSomewhat OT, but this is something I wish people could understand about groups like Occupy and GamerGate. The criticisms of both are often measured in such a way that the targets of the criticism can never do "enough".