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No, if you consider capitalism as the only model. Who knows, maybe the advent of the machines would move us toward a post-capitalist model of sort... Really har

No, if you consider capitalism as the only model. Who knows, maybe the advent of the machines would move us toward a post-capitalist model of sort... Really hard to predict, and the change won't be disruptive and sudden.

noir_lord 12y ago
> Really hard to predict, and the change won't be disruptive and sudden. What leads you to that conclusion? I'm not saying you are wrong (who knows) but I'm curious how you reached it. I can't decide whether the transition is likely to be evolutionary or revolutionary, I think a lot of it will come down to how it's handled over the period.
- camillomiller 12y ago
  I'd say that's because: - power is extremely centralized in our Western society and the mechanisms of conservation are much more sound than in the past, because... - ...the "masses" are generally richer, therefore less prone to really feel a urge to overthrow the current setting. We all have much more to lose, if you want, than the people that took part in revolutions in the past. - ideologies strong enough to bypass the previous reasons are basically dead The only sudden transition could come from a planetary war or global-level event (even natural disaster), but the tipping point of our current equilibrium, in my opinion, is much harder to reach today, thanks to technology, global communications, the role of the Media and the intertwined financial interests of all nations.
ThomPete 12y ago
Well sure I am all for the possibility of a post-scarcity society but it does mean that any current economic model to explain the market or people will have to be completely rewritten. In fact I believe the very reason why we aren't seeing economic models rewritten is because the impact of technology is still considered an externality in economic theory. This is a shame.

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No, if you consider capitalism as the only model. Who knows, maybe the advent of the machines would move us toward a post-capitalist model of sort... Really har

by camillomiller 12y ago

noir_lord 12y ago
> Really hard to predict, and the change won't be disruptive and sudden. What leads you to that conclusion? I'm not saying you are wrong (who knows) but I'm curious how you reached it. I can't decide whether the transition is likely to be evolutionary or revolutionary, I think a lot of it will come down to how it's handled over the period.
- camillomiller 12y ago
  I'd say that's because: - power is extremely centralized in our Western society and the mechanisms of conservation are much more sound than in the past, because... - ...the "masses" are generally richer, therefore less prone to really feel a urge to overthrow the current setting. We all have much more to lose, if you want, than the people that took part in revolutions in the past. - ideologies strong enough to bypass the previous reasons are basically dead The only sudden transition could come from a planetary war or global-level event (even natural disaster), but the tipping point of our current equilibrium, in my opinion, is much harder to reach today, thanks to technology, global communications, the role of the Media and the intertwined financial interests of all nations.
ThomPete 12y ago
Well sure I am all for the possibility of a post-scarcity society but it does mean that any current economic model to explain the market or people will have to be completely rewritten. In fact I believe the very reason why we aren't seeing economic models rewritten is because the impact of technology is still considered an externality in economic theory. This is a shame.