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Maybe you are thinking of Soviet Russia. As far as I've heard of late the quality of education in Russia has fallen a lot, not to mention bribery, corruption et

by hurin 11y ago

Maybe you are thinking of Soviet Russia. As far as I've heard of late the quality of education in Russia has fallen a lot, not to mention bribery, corruption etc. As for the US - yes it is somewhat astonishing, it's probably on a similar level of dysfunctional as healthcare.

golergka 11y ago
I was 14 in 2002, and it still was true.
- hurin 11y ago
  I just googled "Математика. Учебник для 11 класса" and browsed through the index for a few books released within the last 5-10 years. From the look it's about same level as AP Calculus AB.
  - golergka 11y ago
    TBH, I honestly don't know how representative of overall situation my own experience was, but personally, when I was 14, I was solving this (https://gitorious.org/studies-maths-science/maths57d00/raw/533f51602cc95cdf8edd8df8e59a57663fb87a85:m57d00.pdf https://gitorious.org/studies-maths-science/maths57d00/raw/5... — I think you can determine overall math level without knowing Russian, just by reading math notation part of the tasks), and I doubt that overall level could be really different. I hear a lot of bad things about education system in Russia lately though, so it could get much worse.
    - hurin 11y ago
      Yes, I should qualify my experience somewhat - I don't think I learned any math till around grade 6 (btw the town I lived in had the second highest expenditure per student in State - this is not just a underfunded school system problem). English classes were particularly bad as well. I'd imagine in Russia you read Pushkin in first or second grade. In the US I don't think we were assigned an English classic instead of one of those bestselling children novels till grade 7 or 8. Around Highschool it got a lot better, classes became differentiated based on student levels, also AP courses (we were offered the opportunity to take other AP subjects which weren't taught in school for free online as well). Also I certainly don't think IPads are the cure here, as far as I am concerned ed-tech is a blatant scam to build a business from poor administrative use of tax-payer money.
- Grue3 11y ago
  So that was before they introduced the "Basics of Orthodox culture" instead of math and science classes.

by hurin 11y ago

golergka 11y ago

I was 14 in 2002, and it still was true.

hurin 11y ago
I just googled "Математика. Учебник для 11 класса" and browsed through the index for a few books released within the last 5-10 years. From the look it's about same level as AP Calculus AB.
- golergka 11y ago
  TBH, I honestly don't know how representative of overall situation my own experience was, but personally, when I was 14, I was solving this (https://gitorious.org/studies-maths-science/maths57d00/raw/533f51602cc95cdf8edd8df8e59a57663fb87a85:m57d00.pdf https://gitorious.org/studies-maths-science/maths57d00/raw/5... — I think you can determine overall math level without knowing Russian, just by reading math notation part of the tasks), and I doubt that overall level could be really different. I hear a lot of bad things about education system in Russia lately though, so it could get much worse.
  - hurin 11y ago
    Yes, I should qualify my experience somewhat - I don't think I learned any math till around grade 6 (btw the town I lived in had the second highest expenditure per student in State - this is not just a underfunded school system problem). English classes were particularly bad as well. I'd imagine in Russia you read Pushkin in first or second grade. In the US I don't think we were assigned an English classic instead of one of those bestselling children novels till grade 7 or 8. Around Highschool it got a lot better, classes became differentiated based on student levels, also AP courses (we were offered the opportunity to take other AP subjects which weren't taught in school for free online as well). Also I certainly don't think IPads are the cure here, as far as I am concerned ed-tech is a blatant scam to build a business from poor administrative use of tax-payer money.
Grue3 11y ago
So that was before they introduced the "Basics of Orthodox culture" instead of math and science classes.