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Please explain. The suggestion that Google has "the ability to raise prices above those that would be charged in a competitive market" in the search market is c

by asher_ 11y ago

Please explain. The suggestion that Google has "the ability to raise prices above those that would be charged in a competitive market" in the search market is clearly false. Google's search product is free. Are you suggesting Google could start charging for search without a significant loss of market share?

danieldk 11y ago
Advertisements. It's no use advertising on other search engines if nearly no one uses that. The market is probably changing now that Facebook is now also interesting for ads, but there was definitely a period where internet advertising meant Google Ads. Of course, asking to disclose Google's search algorithm borderlines insanity.
- tomjen3 11y ago
  Google had a super majority of the search market, but not really of the ad market.
- ryanhuff 11y ago
  Why is it insanity? Is that France's problem? (Asking for argument sake)
- cheald 11y ago
  But there are certainly plenty of non-Google places and means to advertise. Google could raise prices on AdWords across the board and advertisers would have plenty of alternative means through which to hawk their wares.
  - ryanhuff 11y ago
    Wouldn't you agree that the ad market via search is much different than the overall web ad market, especially when 90% of users (in some markets) go through search to find things?
    - cheald 11y ago
      No, I don't really think I would. Search is a great place to capture consumer intent, but it's hardly the only one. Advertising dollars are finite, and Google absolutely competes against non-search advertising publishers for its piece of that pie. Why do you think they run the AdSense program? Even if it were a different market, Google doesn't hold a monopoly on it by a long shot. Bing is over 20% of search volume in the US, and Yahoo holds another 13%. Searching for products on either of those will return results for relevant advertisers; the simple fact that they have paid ads to run is an empirical contradiction to claims of a search advertising monopoly (or is empirical proof that a large number of very successful companies are economically irrational and are throwing money down a money hole, but that seems highly improbable).
ryanhuff 11y ago
Google gets paid by advertisers, not the people who use their services for free.
pdkl95 11y ago
The problem is you're still thinking only about search. Again, antitrust regulations are about using a monopoly position in one market to affe4ct a different market. A hypothetical situation would Google using their monopoly position in the search market to manipulate the results of anybody searching about domain names so Googles registry service is show instead of the various other registries. By abusing their position in the search market, Google would be able to raise their price for a domain name registration. Their search services would remain untouched, or possibly subsidized with the new DNS-registry profits.

by asher_ 11y ago

danieldk 11y ago

Advertisements. It's no use advertising on other search engines if nearly no one uses that. The market is probably changing now that Facebook is now also interesting for ads, but there was definitely a period where internet advertising meant Google Ads. Of course, asking to disclose Google's search algorithm borderlines insanity.

tomjen3 11y ago
Google had a super majority of the search market, but not really of the ad market.
ryanhuff 11y ago
Why is it insanity? Is that France's problem? (Asking for argument sake)
cheald 11y ago
But there are certainly plenty of non-Google places and means to advertise. Google could raise prices on AdWords across the board and advertisers would have plenty of alternative means through which to hawk their wares.
- ryanhuff 11y ago
  Wouldn't you agree that the ad market via search is much different than the overall web ad market, especially when 90% of users (in some markets) go through search to find things?
  - cheald 11y ago
    No, I don't really think I would. Search is a great place to capture consumer intent, but it's hardly the only one. Advertising dollars are finite, and Google absolutely competes against non-search advertising publishers for its piece of that pie. Why do you think they run the AdSense program? Even if it were a different market, Google doesn't hold a monopoly on it by a long shot. Bing is over 20% of search volume in the US, and Yahoo holds another 13%. Searching for products on either of those will return results for relevant advertisers; the simple fact that they have paid ads to run is an empirical contradiction to claims of a search advertising monopoly (or is empirical proof that a large number of very successful companies are economically irrational and are throwing money down a money hole, but that seems highly improbable).

ryanhuff 11y ago

Google gets paid by advertisers, not the people who use their services for free.

pdkl95 11y ago

The problem is you're still thinking only about search. Again, antitrust regulations are about using a monopoly position in one market to affe4ct a different market. A hypothetical situation would Google using their monopoly position in the search market to manipulate the results of anybody searching about domain names so Googles registry service is show instead of the various other registries. By abusing their position in the search market, Google would be able to raise their price for a domain name registration. Their search services would remain untouched, or possibly subsidized with the new DNS-registry profits.