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> Hi there friends . Our country is a new establishment . Many people are asking me for citizenship. Our country is so small only 3.000-4.000 people accepted. W

by Oletros 12y ago

> Hi there friends . Our country is a new establishment . Many people are asking me for citizenship. Our country is so small only 3.000-4.000 people accepted. We are expanding to fill the Danube. Please; Syrian, Kurds, Arabs, Russians and Chinese are not write me. Because we will not accept them. A good start for a country called Liberland, I expect that it is just a trollish post

elmar 12y ago
It doesn't make sense, a libertarian country should accept any race.
- digi_owl 12y ago
  What, you expect consistency from libertarians? ;)
- vezzy-fnord 12y ago
  Well, if you take the maxim of propertarianism to its limit, then you should be able to exclude anyone for any reason. This is what people like, e.g. Hans Hermann-Hoppe advocate, with proposals of anarcho-capitalist societies that end up sounding like isolationist dystopias. His views on democracy are interesting, however. Either that or I suppose not even libertarianism can trump Balkan relations.
  - ende 12y ago
    That latter is a force to be reckoned with.
- dataker 12y ago
  In theory, but for an early country it's a long shot. With many races, you'd have to handle many different cultures and give out some of that freedom in exchange for equality.
- g1236627 12y ago
  They are liberals not libertarians.
  - elmar 12y ago
    You are probably right, two very completely different ideologies.
    - saraid216 12y ago
      There are a lot more than two ideologies in those terms.
  - ende 12y ago
    The word 'liberal' in a European context ranges in meaning, and often encompasses many aspects of what those in the US would recognize as 'libertarian'. It just really depends on the context though. Depending on the country, 'liberalism' may be associated with center-left, center-right, or both (see UK LibDems as an example). In general, though, it is typically used in contrast to both right wing conservative parties and left wing social-democratic parties.
  - lumberjack 12y ago
    They are not liberals. Not even the most hardcore European liberals would say these things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%ADt_Jedli%C4%8Dka#Quotes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%ADt_Jedli%C4%8Dka#Quotes
- psykovsky 12y ago
  They also don't accept nobody with a criminal record. Like everybody who was convicted of a crime is a danger to society.
zokier 12y ago
Where did you find that snippet?
- briandh 12y ago
  I did a site search on Google and it has been pasted on their forums a few times now. The following thread quotes what appears to be the first mention: http://liberland.org/en/forum/?threadID=2120825992553118a8c46b9 http://liberland.org/en/forum/?threadID=2120825992553118a8c4... (CTRL-F roman94) I surmise from the other posts in the thread that a troll signed up with the username "admin" and posted that; the post no longer appears to be extant. Note, of course, the disclaimer on top of the board: > Purpose of this forum is to allow communication between registered users on Liberland.org. Liberland officials don't make statements in this forum. Entries pretending to be official statements are all fake.
denysonique 12y ago
Indeed this is a trollish post, actually one of the many on the forum (which is a disclaimer about official statements) From their website: Liberland will accept anyone of any background as long they are not Communists, Nazis or other types of extremists.
- elmar 12y ago
  What is the problem with accepting Communists and Nazis, a libertarian country should accept and respect any ideology.
  - funkyy 12y ago
    This is why Liberian country is an utopia. Same with Communist or Capitalist country. Those countries tend to forget one thing - human factor. That humans are not the same and they might not be a "perfect" citizen.
    - douche 12y ago
      I know its a typo, but I can't resist... Liberia did start out as something of a utopia[1]... [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colonization_Society http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colonization_Society
  - devcpp 12y ago
    If you take people who feel so strongly against libertarianism, the country won't remain libertarian for long. Of course, it means the person is charge is shaping his society, which is non-libertarian, but it's a sort of trade off.
  - PhasmaFelis 12y ago
    A tolerant ideology does not require one to tolerate people who are actively trying to destroy that ideology.
    - Frondo 12y ago

by Oletros 12y ago

elmar 12y ago

It doesn't make sense, a libertarian country should accept any race.

digi_owl 12y ago
What, you expect consistency from libertarians? ;)
vezzy-fnord 12y ago
Well, if you take the maxim of propertarianism to its limit, then you should be able to exclude anyone for any reason. This is what people like, e.g. Hans Hermann-Hoppe advocate, with proposals of anarcho-capitalist societies that end up sounding like isolationist dystopias. His views on democracy are interesting, however. Either that or I suppose not even libertarianism can trump Balkan relations.
- ende 12y ago
  That latter is a force to be reckoned with.
dataker 12y ago
In theory, but for an early country it's a long shot. With many races, you'd have to handle many different cultures and give out some of that freedom in exchange for equality.
g1236627 12y ago
They are liberals not libertarians.
- elmar 12y ago
  You are probably right, two very completely different ideologies.
  - saraid216 12y ago
    There are a lot more than two ideologies in those terms.
- ende 12y ago
  The word 'liberal' in a European context ranges in meaning, and often encompasses many aspects of what those in the US would recognize as 'libertarian'. It just really depends on the context though. Depending on the country, 'liberalism' may be associated with center-left, center-right, or both (see UK LibDems as an example). In general, though, it is typically used in contrast to both right wing conservative parties and left wing social-democratic parties.
- lumberjack 12y ago
  They are not liberals. Not even the most hardcore European liberals would say these things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%ADt_Jedli%C4%8Dka#Quotes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%ADt_Jedli%C4%8Dka#Quotes
psykovsky 12y ago
They also don't accept nobody with a criminal record. Like everybody who was convicted of a crime is a danger to society.

zokier 12y ago

Where did you find that snippet?

briandh 12y ago
I did a site search on Google and it has been pasted on their forums a few times now. The following thread quotes what appears to be the first mention: http://liberland.org/en/forum/?threadID=2120825992553118a8c46b9 http://liberland.org/en/forum/?threadID=2120825992553118a8c4... (CTRL-F roman94) I surmise from the other posts in the thread that a troll signed up with the username "admin" and posted that; the post no longer appears to be extant. Note, of course, the disclaimer on top of the board: > Purpose of this forum is to allow communication between registered users on Liberland.org. Liberland officials don't make statements in this forum. Entries pretending to be official statements are all fake.

denysonique 12y ago

Indeed this is a trollish post, actually one of the many on the forum (which is a disclaimer about official statements) From their website: Liberland will accept anyone of any background as long they are not Communists, Nazis or other types of extremists.

elmar 12y ago
What is the problem with accepting Communists and Nazis, a libertarian country should accept and respect any ideology.
- funkyy 12y ago
  This is why Liberian country is an utopia. Same with Communist or Capitalist country. Those countries tend to forget one thing - human factor. That humans are not the same and they might not be a "perfect" citizen.
  - douche 12y ago
    I know its a typo, but I can't resist... Liberia did start out as something of a utopia[1]... [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colonization_Society http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colonization_Society
- devcpp 12y ago
  If you take people who feel so strongly against libertarianism, the country won't remain libertarian for long. Of course, it means the person is charge is shaping his society, which is non-libertarian, but it's a sort of trade off.
- PhasmaFelis 12y ago
  A tolerant ideology does not require one to tolerate people who are actively trying to destroy that ideology.
  - Frondo 12y ago