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I'll ask this with the obvious risk of making a correlation: would you have the same opinion of kkkautoblocker — a tool that blocked anyone who associated with

by Hytosys 12y ago

I'll ask this with the obvious risk of making a correlation: would you have the same opinion of kkkautoblocker — a tool that blocked anyone who associated with the leaders of a hate group?

tsotha 12y ago
Yes, I would, though we both know that's a spurious comparison. For one thing, since you don't control the block list, and you don't know the people who control the list personally, you have no idea who they're blocking. Could be people who have nothing to do with the KKK. For another... if people you don't know are being malicious to you maybe you should step back and think about your public face. People who draw a lot of trolls do so for a reason.
NotableAlamode 12y ago
Why do you draw a false analogy between a racist group and a distributed online movement that has been extremely successful at exposing corruption in games journalism?
- Hytosys 12y ago
  Regardless of my stance on the issue, I tried my best to posit hypothetically and still failed to avoid this loaded question.
ryanlol 12y ago
Depends entirely on the contents of those peoples tweets. What if one of those leaders of a hate group was also a linux kernel developer and regularly made interesting technical tweets?
- Hytosys 12y ago
  I alluded to this dilemma in my original post: "I accept any incidental losses." This choice of course only applies to the case where people use block lists themselves, not where social networks ban people. My suggestion is that social networks ban users wherein harassment is strictly obvious, not wherein a prejudice opinion is even only implied. This is a tricky judgement call that the article tries to dissect, and unfortunately to which I clearly have little to contribute.
  - ryanlol 12y ago
    Well then, my opinion on kkkautoblocker would be no different than my opinion on ggautoblocker. They're both stupid non-solutions, anyone who's actually trying to harass people will be able to circumvent them... People should also consider that if they can't handle the vile cesspit that the internet is, using it is optional.

by Hytosys 12y ago

I'll ask this with the obvious risk of making a correlation: would you have the same opinion of kkkautoblocker — a tool that blocked anyone who associated with the leaders of a hate group?

tsotha 12y ago

Yes, I would, though we both know that's a spurious comparison. For one thing, since you don't control the block list, and you don't know the people who control the list personally, you have no idea who they're blocking. Could be people who have nothing to do with the KKK. For another... if people you don't know are being malicious to you maybe you should step back and think about your public face. People who draw a lot of trolls do so for a reason.

NotableAlamode 12y ago

Why do you draw a false analogy between a racist group and a distributed online movement that has been extremely successful at exposing corruption in games journalism?

Hytosys 12y ago
Regardless of my stance on the issue, I tried my best to posit hypothetically and still failed to avoid this loaded question.

ryanlol 12y ago

Depends entirely on the contents of those peoples tweets. What if one of those leaders of a hate group was also a linux kernel developer and regularly made interesting technical tweets?

Hytosys 12y ago
I alluded to this dilemma in my original post: "I accept any incidental losses." This choice of course only applies to the case where people use block lists themselves, not where social networks ban people. My suggestion is that social networks ban users wherein harassment is strictly obvious, not wherein a prejudice opinion is even only implied. This is a tricky judgement call that the article tries to dissect, and unfortunately to which I clearly have little to contribute.
- ryanlol 12y ago
  Well then, my opinion on kkkautoblocker would be no different than my opinion on ggautoblocker. They're both stupid non-solutions, anyone who's actually trying to harass people will be able to circumvent them... People should also consider that if they can't handle the vile cesspit that the internet is, using it is optional.