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I'm not sure what difference you think gender makes, unless you think women are delicate flowers that must be sheltered from bad language, but I do agree that i
by danellis 12y ago
I'm not sure what difference you think gender makes, unless you think women are delicate flowers that must be sheltered from bad language, but I do agree that it would be better named something more office friendly. I'd suggest 'argh', 'grr' or 'gah'.
- genderbar 12y agoProfanity is (deliberately) uncomfortable to people who are not part of your in-group. Women are more likely to be/feel excluded from in-groups in technology workplaces.
- lesmiserable 12y agoProfanity is a wonderful spice of life, it is deliberately uncomfortable to people who take things way too seriously.
- genderbar 12y agoGet back to me after someone you don't like or don't trust throws you some of that spice.
- lesmiserable 12y agoyou mean like being in any public space? I only get to control how I react.
- danellis 12y ago> Women are more likely to be/feel excluded from in-groups in technology workplaces ... because people want to treat them differently, perhaps?
- genderbar 12y agoI get your point, but I think the problem is with in-group behaviour. You are comfortable with swearing if you're very comfortable with the group dynamic. But there are plenty of out-groups in technology along plenty of lines, who may privately be uncomfortable in this situation; and gender is only one of those lines. If we pretend there is no problem with gender that needs addressing in this respect, it's not that we are excluding women: it's that we are excluding every aspect of diversity in technology.
- code_duck 12y agoIf I specifically don't swear around a woman colleague, while I would usually swear around all my male colleagues, isn't that exclusionary? Wouldn't treating her the same as I treat everyone else be more inclusive?