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A line of C is syntactically correct or incorrect without regard to the race, gender, sex, or other identity aspect(s) of the individual(s) responsible for writ

A line of C is syntactically correct or incorrect without regard to the race, gender, sex, or other identity aspect(s) of the individual(s) responsible for writing it. Exactly right. Maybe some people (usually young, nerdy teenage guys) base their entire identity on their code. Most people who code professionally or recreationally over the long term strive for excellence and correctness at all times, but don't base their entire identity on coding. The industry is a lot healthier and more balanced than the OP article makes it out to be.

walshemj 12y ago
the "code" is just a tool to do interesting things is how I always looked at it.
srpablo 12y ago
> The industry is a lot healthier and more balanced than the OP article makes it out to be. I think that, for some who believe it is healthy (not necessarily you, but many others I speak to who make similar claims), the conclusion is arrived at incorrectly by survivorship bias: the most visible people _tend_ to seem like they're doing alright! They're usually nice people! Good intentions all around! But speak to people who left or are leaving (like OP), and you get a more complicated picture. I think the diversity numbers posted by Google, Twitter, Apple etc., and arguments made by a number of underrepresented people in tech make a pretty compelling case to me that the industry and its culture have plenty worth criticizing.
- hueving 12y ago
  >I think the diversity numbers posted by Google, Twitter, Apple etc. ... reflect almost precisely the pipeline of people coming out of universities. Our culture discouraged young girls from coding. We cut off our oxygen supply and we idiotically sit around arguing about how we should treat the remaining oxygen better so we don't suffocate. There are not enough qualified women to bring the ratio of software engineers anywhere near normal. You can bitch and moan about terrible companies and culture, but you can't attract a population of people that don't exist.

walshemj 12y ago

the "code" is just a tool to do interesting things is how I always looked at it.

srpablo 12y ago

> The industry is a lot healthier and more balanced than the OP article makes it out to be. I think that, for some who believe it is healthy (not necessarily you, but many others I speak to who make similar claims), the conclusion is arrived at incorrectly by survivorship bias: the most visible people _tend_ to seem like they're doing alright! They're usually nice people! Good intentions all around! But speak to people who left or are leaving (like OP), and you get a more complicated picture. I think the diversity numbers posted by Google, Twitter, Apple etc., and arguments made by a number of underrepresented people in tech make a pretty compelling case to me that the industry and its culture have plenty worth criticizing.

hueving 12y ago
>I think the diversity numbers posted by Google, Twitter, Apple etc. ... reflect almost precisely the pipeline of people coming out of universities. Our culture discouraged young girls from coding. We cut off our oxygen supply and we idiotically sit around arguing about how we should treat the remaining oxygen better so we don't suffocate. There are not enough qualified women to bring the ratio of software engineers anywhere near normal. You can bitch and moan about terrible companies and culture, but you can't attract a population of people that don't exist.