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"So for example, the transition 4->1->5->6 is one of the most popular ones" The graph does not show this or I'm misunderstanding something. The most popular loo

"So for example, the transition 4->1->5->6 is one of the most popular ones" The graph does not show this or I'm misunderstanding something. The most popular looks like 1,4,1,5 Also, what does the double, triple numbers mean? 664, 66 in the fist column. I know some music theory, but the article's explanation is rather confusing.

em3rgent0rdr 12y ago
the first number is the chord number (which should have been notated as a roman numeral, and should have differentiated between major and minor with capital and lowercase). The rest of the arabic numberals indicate the inversion using figured bass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figured_bass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figured_bass
- phaemon 12y ago
  He mentions this under "Caveats": 'There are several limitations to this assessment since the Hooktheory API wasn’t really intended for this type of analysis. For example, it doesn’t mention whether “6” is “vi” (minor) or “VI” (major), which is kind of a big deal.'
phaemon 12y ago
It just says "one of the most popular", not "the most popular". The double and triple numbers are Figured Bass notation (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figured_bass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figured_bass ). So, if you have the 6th and it's the second inversion, it would be 664. For example, in G that would be the second inversion of Em.
azakai 12y ago
> 1,4,1,5 That is indeed very popular, off the top of my head, "Free Falling" by Tom Petty. However, I am puzzled because 1,5,6,4 seems much more popular in my experience, and it doesn't seem that high in that data.
- TheOtherHobbes 12y ago
  Top selling != widely used. A table of chord progressions that took into account sales figures would look very different.
rspeer 12y ago
He just said "one of the most popular", and 1 -> 5 -> 6 -> 4 is indeed the ridiculously common progression of "four chord rock". But if only the changes in chords are being notated, I bet 1, 4, 1, 5 comes from the 12-bar blues, which is even more widespread than four-chord rock. The 12 bars that dominated the 20th century could be notated as: 1, 1, 1, 1, 4, 4, 1, 1, 5, 4, 1, 5 And if you only notate the transitions: 1 -> 4 -> 1 -> 5 -> 4 -> 1 -> 5
- kowdermeister 12y ago
  Thanks, this makes sense, however the visuals did not really show the common 4 chord song pattern. Anyways, I mostly produce electronic music and this blues progression just gave me a good idea :)

em3rgent0rdr 12y ago

the first number is the chord number (which should have been notated as a roman numeral, and should have differentiated between major and minor with capital and lowercase). The rest of the arabic numberals indicate the inversion using figured bass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figured_bass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figured_bass

phaemon 12y ago
He mentions this under "Caveats": 'There are several limitations to this assessment since the Hooktheory API wasn’t really intended for this type of analysis. For example, it doesn’t mention whether “6” is “vi” (minor) or “VI” (major), which is kind of a big deal.'

phaemon 12y ago

It just says "one of the most popular", not "the most popular". The double and triple numbers are Figured Bass notation (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figured_bass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figured_bass ). So, if you have the 6th and it's the second inversion, it would be 664. For example, in G that would be the second inversion of Em.

azakai 12y ago

> 1,4,1,5 That is indeed very popular, off the top of my head, "Free Falling" by Tom Petty. However, I am puzzled because 1,5,6,4 seems much more popular in my experience, and it doesn't seem that high in that data.

TheOtherHobbes 12y ago
Top selling != widely used. A table of chord progressions that took into account sales figures would look very different.

rspeer 12y ago

He just said "one of the most popular", and 1 -> 5 -> 6 -> 4 is indeed the ridiculously common progression of "four chord rock". But if only the changes in chords are being notated, I bet 1, 4, 1, 5 comes from the 12-bar blues, which is even more widespread than four-chord rock. The 12 bars that dominated the 20th century could be notated as: 1, 1, 1, 1, 4, 4, 1, 1, 5, 4, 1, 5 And if you only notate the transitions: 1 -> 4 -> 1 -> 5 -> 4 -> 1 -> 5

kowdermeister 12y ago
Thanks, this makes sense, however the visuals did not really show the common 4 chord song pattern. Anyways, I mostly produce electronic music and this blues progression just gave me a good idea :)