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He seems to be criticizing Go for not being Python. My understanding is that Go is designed with an obsessive need for speed and concurrency in mind. It's a lit

by shib71 17y ago

He seems to be criticizing Go for not being Python. My understanding is that Go is designed with an obsessive need for speed and concurrency in mind. It's a little silly to compare it to Python without accounting for that.

jrockway 17y ago
Yeah, the braces make it execute faster.
allenbrunson 17y ago
programming languages influence how you think about programming to such a degree that it's difficult to reason objectively about them. it's rare for me to watch long videos, because they are information-poor for the time investment, but i watched rob pike talk for an hour about go this evening. a lot of it is really interesting, but a lot of things about the syntax made me think: ow, that's going to be painful for me if it becomes successful. rob's talk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKnDgT73v8s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKnDgT73v8s
dkersten 17y ago
designed with ... speed and concurrency in mind I won't argue with the speed part, but I feel the concurrency support is a bit weak. Go routines, locks and channels don't seem enough to me for a language that was designed with concurrency in mind. Hell, if thats all it takes, I would argue that Python 2.6, with its multiprocessing module, is designed for concurrency. Now, I do think that these features are an improvement over C and C++, but they seem to fall a bit short of more modern languages.
- thenduks 17y ago
  You should really try it. Erlang (or Scala with Actors) might be a better place to start to get a feel, but that's just me.
  - dkersten 17y ago
    I should try what? Go? Regarding concurrency, I've been playing a lot with Clojure recently, whose agents are similar to actors.
    - thenduks 17y ago
      Yea sorry, I meant 'it' as in Go/Erlang/Scala-Actors style concurrency. If Clojure has something similar then that's cool too. I'm just saying it's pretty game-changing compared to stuff like libraries for Python (imo, of course).

by shib71 17y ago

jrockway 17y ago

Yeah, the braces make it execute faster.

allenbrunson 17y ago

programming languages influence how you think about programming to such a degree that it's difficult to reason objectively about them. it's rare for me to watch long videos, because they are information-poor for the time investment, but i watched rob pike talk for an hour about go this evening. a lot of it is really interesting, but a lot of things about the syntax made me think: ow, that's going to be painful for me if it becomes successful. rob's talk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKnDgT73v8s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKnDgT73v8s

dkersten 17y ago

designed with ... speed and concurrency in mind I won't argue with the speed part, but I feel the concurrency support is a bit weak. Go routines, locks and channels don't seem enough to me for a language that was designed with concurrency in mind. Hell, if thats all it takes, I would argue that Python 2.6, with its multiprocessing module, is designed for concurrency. Now, I do think that these features are an improvement over C and C++, but they seem to fall a bit short of more modern languages.

thenduks 17y ago
You should really try it. Erlang (or Scala with Actors) might be a better place to start to get a feel, but that's just me.
- dkersten 17y ago
  I should try what? Go? Regarding concurrency, I've been playing a lot with Clojure recently, whose agents are similar to actors.
  - thenduks 17y ago
    Yea sorry, I meant 'it' as in Go/Erlang/Scala-Actors style concurrency. If Clojure has something similar then that's cool too. I'm just saying it's pretty game-changing compared to stuff like libraries for Python (imo, of course).