> You can have setting windows, open/save dialogs, color windows and much more with Pharo's GUI. That's not the point. It is just not used by the software itse

> You can have setting windows, open/save dialogs, color windows and much more with Pharo's GUI. That's not the point. It is just not used by the software itself. > Personally I really like the GUI :) I like the GUI of my Lisp Machine. But very very few people use it and it is behind the times in many ways. > If you hate Pharo GUI so much Pointing out that it is dated and clunky is not 'hating' it. If somebody asks me how a UI for development tool should look like, I would point out the importance of a native look and feel. Lighttable for example. A recent development. It's not really native. It uses complex web stuff on the desktop. Fail. True, cross-platform development is tough. But it's somewhat possible. Example: https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/ https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/