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The new celibacy? How porn may be destroying the impetus for sex

17 points by michaelsbradley 12y ago

hackread 12y ago
I am not a christian but I completely agree with this theory. Porn is indeed destroying it.
duncan_bayne 12y ago
I think that's the first time I've ever read a Catholic publication that I agreed with.
- bennettfeely 12y ago
  Probably because you haven't read a lot of Catholic publications. I would imagine almost every HN reader would strongly agree with these for example: Vatican U.N. Diplomat Warns Against Increasing Dehumanization of Warfare http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/vatican-u-n-diplomat-warns-against-increasing-dehumanization-of-warfare http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/vatican-u-n-diplomat-warns-... U.S. denominations, key Catholic bishop advocate for open Internet http://ncronline.org/news/art-media/us-denominations-key-catholic-bishop-advocate-open-internet http://ncronline.org/news/art-media/us-denominations-key-cat... The Church consistently advocates for protection of the environment, abolishment of the death penalty, for education, for research in medical and science fields, and so on. The Church doesn't fit into traditional labels like "right" or "left"; or "liberal" "conservative."
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Greenhillz 12y ago
Guys, check some scientific studies, you are more prone to masturbation & porn if you are in a relationship than if you are single.
FrankenPC 12y ago
I think the article is confusing a variety of different problems. Anyone here watch that old grade B sci-fi movie called Cherry 2000? The idea is that relationships have become so insanely complex that the romance has been completely lost. So, people turn to sexbots for intimate relationships. Porn is our modern day version of the sex bot (at least until actual sexbots appear). IMO: Porn isn't destroying relationships. Porn is a simple supply and demand product. If there's no demand, it would just go away naturally. Powerful intimate bonds and the sex that results from that bond is the most amazing experience I've ever had. No porn can ever replace that. It can't even come close. So, the problem must be that true intimacy simply isn't being experienced. Why is that?
- atlantic 12y ago
  There is a great deal of anecdotal evidence that it is indeed destroying relationships. I suggest you browse the pornfree subreddit and see what people are saying. I know it's not science, but it's suggestive nevertheless.
6t6t6 12y ago
"Studies show that easy access to free internet pornography is having devastating effects on real-life relationships." I don't see any link to any study, so I guess we should take this affirmation as... "an article of faith"
- michaelsbradley 12y ago
  The studies mentioned are cited in the FTND article, linked from the original: http://fightthenewdrug.org/porn-ruins-your-sex-life/ http://fightthenewdrug.org/porn-ruins-your-sex-life/ Scroll to the bottom and "click for citations".
probably_wrong 12y ago
This reminds me of a piece someone wrote (sorry, can't remember the source) about how to talk about porn with his teenage son. His point was "porn creates unhealthy expectations about what relations should be. I don't say that watching porn is unnatural or bad, but it is bad for you at this point in your life". It seemed to me a wise way of focusing on the subject.
leaveyou 12y ago
"Q: what does the optimist see in the graveyard ? A: only pluses". I think overall porn is good. It satisfies basic needs of millions of people which would otherwise be forced to "fake entire relationships". It reduces the risk of STDs and unwanted babies. I could bet that in max 2 years after google launches those internet balloons, the third world population growth will just stop.
djob 12y ago
Pornography is deeply connected with human trafficking, child molestation, pedophilia, ... and so on.. I was not aware of this whole pornography industry world..until i start to research myself.. i was shocked. How far it goes? Pedophilia will soon be legal. Don't believe me? Please go, and do research yourself. you will be shocked what is happening there. Pedophile political parties and lobists are everywhere.

hackread 12y ago

I am not a christian but I completely agree with this theory. Porn is indeed destroying it.

duncan_bayne 12y ago

I think that's the first time I've ever read a Catholic publication that I agreed with.

bennettfeely 12y ago
Probably because you haven't read a lot of Catholic publications. I would imagine almost every HN reader would strongly agree with these for example: Vatican U.N. Diplomat Warns Against Increasing Dehumanization of Warfare http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/vatican-u-n-diplomat-warns-against-increasing-dehumanization-of-warfare http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/vatican-u-n-diplomat-warns-... U.S. denominations, key Catholic bishop advocate for open Internet http://ncronline.org/news/art-media/us-denominations-key-catholic-bishop-advocate-open-internet http://ncronline.org/news/art-media/us-denominations-key-cat... The Church consistently advocates for protection of the environment, abolishment of the death penalty, for education, for research in medical and science fields, and so on. The Church doesn't fit into traditional labels like "right" or "left"; or "liberal" "conservative."

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Greenhillz 12y ago

Guys, check some scientific studies, you are more prone to masturbation & porn if you are in a relationship than if you are single.

FrankenPC 12y ago

I think the article is confusing a variety of different problems. Anyone here watch that old grade B sci-fi movie called Cherry 2000? The idea is that relationships have become so insanely complex that the romance has been completely lost. So, people turn to sexbots for intimate relationships. Porn is our modern day version of the sex bot (at least until actual sexbots appear). IMO: Porn isn't destroying relationships. Porn is a simple supply and demand product. If there's no demand, it would just go away naturally. Powerful intimate bonds and the sex that results from that bond is the most amazing experience I've ever had. No porn can ever replace that. It can't even come close. So, the problem must be that true intimacy simply isn't being experienced. Why is that?

atlantic 12y ago
There is a great deal of anecdotal evidence that it is indeed destroying relationships. I suggest you browse the pornfree subreddit and see what people are saying. I know it's not science, but it's suggestive nevertheless.

6t6t6 12y ago

"Studies show that easy access to free internet pornography is having devastating effects on real-life relationships." I don't see any link to any study, so I guess we should take this affirmation as... "an article of faith"

michaelsbradley 12y ago
The studies mentioned are cited in the FTND article, linked from the original: http://fightthenewdrug.org/porn-ruins-your-sex-life/ http://fightthenewdrug.org/porn-ruins-your-sex-life/ Scroll to the bottom and "click for citations".

probably_wrong 12y ago

This reminds me of a piece someone wrote (sorry, can't remember the source) about how to talk about porn with his teenage son. His point was "porn creates unhealthy expectations about what relations should be. I don't say that watching porn is unnatural or bad, but it is bad for you at this point in your life". It seemed to me a wise way of focusing on the subject.

leaveyou 12y ago

"Q: what does the optimist see in the graveyard ? A: only pluses". I think overall porn is good. It satisfies basic needs of millions of people which would otherwise be forced to "fake entire relationships". It reduces the risk of STDs and unwanted babies. I could bet that in max 2 years after google launches those internet balloons, the third world population growth will just stop.

djob 12y ago

Pornography is deeply connected with human trafficking, child molestation, pedophilia, ... and so on.. I was not aware of this whole pornography industry world..until i start to research myself.. i was shocked. How far it goes? Pedophilia will soon be legal. Don't believe me? Please go, and do research yourself. you will be shocked what is happening there. Pedophile political parties and lobists are everywhere.