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> Nonsense. Slack is very beautiful with everything around the core feature, but the core feature is awful... Well obviously we disagree on this point, as to m

by justsee 12y ago

> Nonsense. Slack is very beautiful with everything around the core feature, but the core feature is awful... Well obviously we disagree on this point, as to me something being beautiful necessarily has to encompass the UX, and I think the Slack UX is great. As a previous long-time Jira / Confluence user I also know about atrocious UX, and Atlassian delivers that in spades (along with appallingly slow page refreshes). If you've been sensitised to the kind of UX Atlassian delivers I'm really surprised you take issue with Slack, but each to their own. > For people used to chat elsewhere, these issues are pretty obvious. But Slack seems to be marketing to people who've never used chat, so they get to set their expectations from scratch. Our team are long-time IRC users and have used a lot of comms solutions over the years, and Slack is the first decent one we've come across. So I'd obviously refute your assertion that savvy users dislike Slack and unsophisticated users like Slack.

vacri 12y ago
Jira/Confluence UI is not even vaguely Hipchat UI. And yes, Confluence is appallingly slow. I find it weird that you mention these as a rebuttal, since a) they're not chat, and b) the only mention I made of either of them is how Slack presents one of them. Hell, I didn't even mention any other chat products, not even IRC, just 'chat' as a general term. Our team are also longterm IRC users (I get mocked for only being in half-a-dozen channels) and our Slack experiment lasted only one afternoon before everyone abandoned it. The only dev who was really fighting for Slack was wanting to use their IRC integration and bypass the UI completely. So I'd obviously refute your assertion that savvy users dislike Slack and unsophisticated users like Slack. Refute away, because that's not what I said. Your entire rebuttal to what I said has been a strawman, apart from 'we disagree'. I gave you some very concrete examples of my problems with the Slack interface, and you give me a vague dismissal about entirely different products.

by justsee 12y ago

vacri 12y ago

Jira/Confluence UI is not even vaguely Hipchat UI. And yes, Confluence is appallingly slow. I find it weird that you mention these as a rebuttal, since a) they're not chat, and b) the only mention I made of either of them is how Slack presents one of them. Hell, I didn't even mention any other chat products, not even IRC, just 'chat' as a general term. Our team are also longterm IRC users (I get mocked for only being in half-a-dozen channels) and our Slack experiment lasted only one afternoon before everyone abandoned it. The only dev who was really fighting for Slack was wanting to use their IRC integration and bypass the UI completely. So I'd obviously refute your assertion that savvy users dislike Slack and unsophisticated users like Slack. Refute away, because that's not what I said. Your entire rebuttal to what I said has been a strawman, apart from 'we disagree'. I gave you some very concrete examples of my problems with the Slack interface, and you give me a vague dismissal about entirely different products.