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> Competition on the App Store has risen to a frenzied level. As a result, sales for our games has dropped massively and the cost of advertising them has shot t

by mahouse 12y ago

> Competition on the App Store has risen to a frenzied level. As a result, sales for our games has dropped massively and the cost of advertising them has shot through the roof. So... Actually make good games? I don't know what the games of this studio are, but if you can't shine anymore in an app store just because there are more competitors, maybe your products weren't that good to begin with?

fuckedapanda 12y ago
the games spiderweb makes are really great, Vogel himself is kind of an indie success story as well honestly I don't think his games fit well with the kind of players and people who buy iPads these days
izacus 12y ago
Unfortunately the definition of a "good" game and a game that earns money on App stores is slightly disconnected at this time. Skinner boxes that rely on practically scummy ways of selling expensive IAPs for basic amount of gameplay are the ones that dominate the earnings.
- freehunter 12y ago
  Which sucks because some of the games are quite good, or could be without the IAP stuff. I do enjoy Peggle and would be willing to pay a few bucks for it. Instead the only option I have is to get it for free and only play a few rounds per day until it's begging me for money. And not a one-time purchase, literally 99c per day. No thanks. And an Age of Empires style game would be awesome on mobile! But not a "it takes five hours to build this building unless you pay lots of money" style game. It would be nice to have a platform that outlawed that kind of stuff, so real games for real prices could go back to being competitive. It's to the point where I won't even download a game that they won't let me pay for upfront (and even then, I find some $1.99 games that have stupid IAP requirements, and that pisses me off even more).
lotharbot 12y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiderweb_Software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiderweb_Software Seems they've gotten pretty good reviews from critics and fans alike. (I personally enjoyed Avadon, which came with one of the Humble Android Bundles.)

by mahouse 12y ago

fuckedapanda 12y ago

the games spiderweb makes are really great, Vogel himself is kind of an indie success story as well honestly I don't think his games fit well with the kind of players and people who buy iPads these days

izacus 12y ago

Unfortunately the definition of a "good" game and a game that earns money on App stores is slightly disconnected at this time. Skinner boxes that rely on practically scummy ways of selling expensive IAPs for basic amount of gameplay are the ones that dominate the earnings.

freehunter 12y ago
Which sucks because some of the games are quite good, or could be without the IAP stuff. I do enjoy Peggle and would be willing to pay a few bucks for it. Instead the only option I have is to get it for free and only play a few rounds per day until it's begging me for money. And not a one-time purchase, literally 99c per day. No thanks. And an Age of Empires style game would be awesome on mobile! But not a "it takes five hours to build this building unless you pay lots of money" style game. It would be nice to have a platform that outlawed that kind of stuff, so real games for real prices could go back to being competitive. It's to the point where I won't even download a game that they won't let me pay for upfront (and even then, I find some $1.99 games that have stupid IAP requirements, and that pisses me off even more).

lotharbot 12y ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiderweb_Software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiderweb_Software Seems they've gotten pretty good reviews from critics and fans alike. (I personally enjoyed Avadon, which came with one of the Humble Android Bundles.)