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Try searching for "unwitting". I think it's completely fair (and true) to state that past government programs tested chemicals on unwitting Americans and foreig

by rmxt 11y ago

Try searching for "unwitting". I think it's completely fair (and true) to state that past government programs tested chemicals on unwitting Americans and foreigners. Might not have literally been attempts at "mind-control" or "tainting water supplies with psychedelics", but misdirection and abuse of power definitely occurred and continues to occur. "In order to meet the perceived threat to the national security, substantial programs for the testing and use of chemical and biological agents-including projects involving the surreptitious administration of LSD to unwitting nonvolunteer subjects "at all social levels, high and low, native American and foreign"-were conceived, and implemented. These programs resulted in substantial violations of the rights of individuals within the United States." pg. 73 (393) See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Olson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Olson

diminoten 11y ago
> Might not have literally been attempts at "mind-control" or "tainting water supplies with psychedelics", but misdirection and abuse of power definitely occurred and continues to occur. Then what the fuck are we talking about? Seriously, what the fuck are you doing? I'm beyond tired of folks derailing conversations like what you've just done.
- rmxt 11y ago
  >Then what the fuck are we talking about? Seriously, what the fuck are you doing? I'm beyond tired of folks derailing conversations like what you've just done. So much anger, in such a personal form. Why the chip on your shoulder? This thread, while straying from the content of the submitted post, has come to be about your implication regarding CIA and mind control. I have admitted that the CIA directly participating in mind control efforts via water supply poisoning seems outlandish, while pointing out that you are overlooking some crucial tidbits in the above link. The CIA has participated in some unsavory experiments on unknowing citizens in the past. While NSLs and the CIA have a tenuous connection at best, you did indeed bring the CIA into the conversation in the first place. I'd say that pointing out past government indiscretion (MKULTRA) is fair game, when we are considering the merits of another (NSLs).
  - diminoten 11y ago
    What you're doing is refusing to let go of something that a) went completely off-topic and b) was entirely incorrect. You'd be wrong to say it's "fair game" to ramble about the other CIA conspiracies. What the fuck is happening to this site today? Because I don't think the US government forced GitHub to secretly edit the contents of a repo, I'm the one with the problem?

by rmxt 11y ago

diminoten 11y ago

> Might not have literally been attempts at "mind-control" or "tainting water supplies with psychedelics", but misdirection and abuse of power definitely occurred and continues to occur. Then what the fuck are we talking about? Seriously, what the fuck are you doing? I'm beyond tired of folks derailing conversations like what you've just done.

rmxt 11y ago
>Then what the fuck are we talking about? Seriously, what the fuck are you doing? I'm beyond tired of folks derailing conversations like what you've just done. So much anger, in such a personal form. Why the chip on your shoulder? This thread, while straying from the content of the submitted post, has come to be about your implication regarding CIA and mind control. I have admitted that the CIA directly participating in mind control efforts via water supply poisoning seems outlandish, while pointing out that you are overlooking some crucial tidbits in the above link. The CIA has participated in some unsavory experiments on unknowing citizens in the past. While NSLs and the CIA have a tenuous connection at best, you did indeed bring the CIA into the conversation in the first place. I'd say that pointing out past government indiscretion (MKULTRA) is fair game, when we are considering the merits of another (NSLs).
- diminoten 11y ago
  What you're doing is refusing to let go of something that a) went completely off-topic and b) was entirely incorrect. You'd be wrong to say it's "fair game" to ramble about the other CIA conspiracies. What the fuck is happening to this site today? Because I don't think the US government forced GitHub to secretly edit the contents of a repo, I'm the one with the problem?