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I'm a musician, 10ms latency would be fine, however as they note, most Android apps have 100ms latency, or 200ms round-trip latency. That is definitely not usab

I'm a musician, 10ms latency would be fine, however as they note, most Android apps have 100ms latency, or 200ms round-trip latency. That is definitely not usable.

izacus 12y ago
Huh, those tests show it has 35-50, not 200ms O.o
- sundarurfriend 12y ago
  They also mention that those tests were made in the best case scenario (disabling noise correction, etc. for the sake of speed) with the best performing mobile, and by following Google's low latency guidelines. Most Android apps don't have the first two luxuries in the general case, and (apparently) don't bother with the last one, thus the much higher latencies in practice.
- on_and_off 12y ago
  I am too lazy to try to find the exact numbers and versions but back in the Android 1.x, 2.x days, the latency was in the 200 ms ballpark. So things have improved a lot since then (even though there is still a lot of ground to cover)
  - abraham 12y ago
    https://source.android.com/devices/audio/latency_measurements.html https://source.android.com/devices/audio/latency_measurement...
- jblow 12y ago
  If you actually read the words in the article you will see that that test was the absolute best case they could find.
- joesmo 12y ago
  Even at 35-50ms latency, it's still unusable.
__david__ 12y ago
The funny part is that pipe organists would laugh at 100ms latency and say "cry me a river". With the pneumatics combined with the distance of the pipes from the performer, pipe organ latencies can be in the 200 to 500ms range. I asked my sister how she managed it and she said it was just a learned skill. She had to learn to completely tune out what she was hearing and play with the beat and music completely internalized. The difference, of course, is that organists are usually not syncing up to other instruments. If there are other instruments involved, they tend to sync up with the organ.
- fnordfnordfnord 12y ago
  The latency has to be predictable and for most people probably also consistent.

I'm a musician, 10ms latency would be fine, however as they note, most Android apps have 100ms latency, or 200ms round-trip latency. That is definitely not usable.

izacus 12y ago

Huh, those tests show it has 35-50, not 200ms O.o

sundarurfriend 12y ago
They also mention that those tests were made in the best case scenario (disabling noise correction, etc. for the sake of speed) with the best performing mobile, and by following Google's low latency guidelines. Most Android apps don't have the first two luxuries in the general case, and (apparently) don't bother with the last one, thus the much higher latencies in practice.
on_and_off 12y ago
I am too lazy to try to find the exact numbers and versions but back in the Android 1.x, 2.x days, the latency was in the 200 ms ballpark. So things have improved a lot since then (even though there is still a lot of ground to cover)
- abraham 12y ago
  https://source.android.com/devices/audio/latency_measurements.html https://source.android.com/devices/audio/latency_measurement...
jblow 12y ago
If you actually read the words in the article you will see that that test was the absolute best case they could find.
joesmo 12y ago
Even at 35-50ms latency, it's still unusable.

__david__ 12y ago

The funny part is that pipe organists would laugh at 100ms latency and say "cry me a river". With the pneumatics combined with the distance of the pipes from the performer, pipe organ latencies can be in the 200 to 500ms range. I asked my sister how she managed it and she said it was just a learned skill. She had to learn to completely tune out what she was hearing and play with the beat and music completely internalized. The difference, of course, is that organists are usually not syncing up to other instruments. If there are other instruments involved, they tend to sync up with the organ.

fnordfnordfnord 12y ago
The latency has to be predictable and for most people probably also consistent.