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The design and implementation of the Meteor platform [video]

91 points by joshux 11y ago

primigenus 11y ago
Meteor should publish more videos like this explaining the fundamentals. I feel like a lot of people miss the thinking behind the platform and end up comparing Meteor to other libraries and frameworks they already know, such as Ember, Angular or React, when Meteor is actually something completely different. For instance, if you visit the "projects" page on the Meteor website (https://www.meteor.com/projects https://www.meteor.com/projects), you're faced with the following introductory paragraph: > The Meteor Project is a little bit like the Apache Foundation or the Free Software Foundation in that it is an umbrella organization that stewards the development of a set of open source projects. This page has information on each of the subprojects currently being sponsored by the Meteor Project. It would be interesting to hear more about their philosophy on simultaneously building an organisation like this and designing a software platform.
- mrgordon 11y ago
  Agreed, I'm lucky enough to know the founders personally and it is quite inspiring to hear where they're going and why they decided this was what needed to be built.
- mizzao 11y ago
  It seems that the ability to tell what is fundamentally different about one framework versus another, instead of just treating all frameworks as interchangeable keywords, is what distinguishes some good engineers from bad :)
karanbhangui 11y ago
Looks like this is from a CS course at UC Berkeley on cutting edge web technologies: http://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs294-101/sp15/ http://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs294-101/sp15/ Good talk from Pete Hunt on React as well. More talks from others will be coming in the near future.
bsaul 11y ago
Very interesting talk, but being in the process of building a similar architecure at the moment, i think the person dismiss OT and other kind of merging technics a bit too fast. "Latest to write wins" isn't manageable in every case , such as google doc, or github. You sometimes needs locking and atomic complex updates for which a stack only built on top of mongo and pojo, and no other knowledge of the relations between data parts may be insufficient. But i sure hope they'll prove me wrong and solve the problem in a generic way.
- mizzao 11y ago
  You can always use an existing OT stack within Meteor, such as this package I wrote integrating ShareJS: https://github.com/mizzao/meteor-sharejs https://github.com/mizzao/meteor-sharejs

91 points by joshux 11y ago

Meteor should publish more videos like this explaining the fundamentals. I feel like a lot of people miss the thinking behind the platform and end up comparing Meteor to other libraries and frameworks they already know, such as Ember, Angular or React, when Meteor is actually something completely different. For instance, if you visit the "projects" page on the Meteor website (https://www.meteor.com/projects https://www.meteor.com/projects), you're faced with the following introductory paragraph: > The Meteor Project is a little bit like the Apache Foundation or the Free Software Foundation in that it is an umbrella organization that stewards the development of a set of open source projects. This page has information on each of the subprojects currently being sponsored by the Meteor Project. It would be interesting to hear more about their philosophy on simultaneously building an organisation like this and designing a software platform.

mrgordon 11y ago
Agreed, I'm lucky enough to know the founders personally and it is quite inspiring to hear where they're going and why they decided this was what needed to be built.
mizzao 11y ago
It seems that the ability to tell what is fundamentally different about one framework versus another, instead of just treating all frameworks as interchangeable keywords, is what distinguishes some good engineers from bad :)

karanbhangui 11y ago

Looks like this is from a CS course at UC Berkeley on cutting edge web technologies: http://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs294-101/sp15/ http://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs294-101/sp15/ Good talk from Pete Hunt on React as well. More talks from others will be coming in the near future.

bsaul 11y ago

Very interesting talk, but being in the process of building a similar architecure at the moment, i think the person dismiss OT and other kind of merging technics a bit too fast. "Latest to write wins" isn't manageable in every case , such as google doc, or github. You sometimes needs locking and atomic complex updates for which a stack only built on top of mongo and pojo, and no other knowledge of the relations between data parts may be insufficient. But i sure hope they'll prove me wrong and solve the problem in a generic way.

mizzao 11y ago
You can always use an existing OT stack within Meteor, such as this package I wrote integrating ShareJS: https://github.com/mizzao/meteor-sharejs https://github.com/mizzao/meteor-sharejs