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Encryption won't solve the problem. 1/ They're after the meta data. Whether you have plaintext or encrypted communication, they still know to whom you talk. Un

Encryption won't solve the problem. 1/ They're after the meta data. Whether you have plaintext or encrypted communication, they still know to whom you talk. Unless you use TOR or VPN yourself out of the country, it's not going to help... 2/ Strict key disclosure laws. You can be thrown to jail, if you cannot decrypt some information when requested by a judge. That's true even in the case where you can prove the key is no longer in your possession...

MidnighToker 11y ago
> 2/ Strict key disclosure laws. You can be thrown to jail, if you cannot decrypt some information when requested by a judge. That's true even in the case where you can prove the key is no longer in your possession... How the heck is this supposed to work when TLS supports Diffe-Hellman?
- Lawtonfogle 11y ago
  It makes about as much sense as putting a poor person into debtors prison until they pay off their debt. Anyone who supports this is unethical.
higherpurpose 11y ago
Who knew Tor wasn't going to be useful only for people in countries like China, Iran or Saudi Arabia...but also France, Spain, UK, US, Australia, Canada...you know, the "most freedom-loving democratic countries" in the world. There's definitely a coordinated effort to pass these laws together now, to make it seem like it's the "sensible" thing to do after the terrorist attacks. FBI chief Backdoor-Comey has also been making rounds in European countries to push for total surveillance laws "or else it might hurt their relationship with the US". This may especially work in weaker countries where a partnership with the US is regarded as a god-send and they'll try not to do anything to hurt that partnership. In other words they'll do anything the US government tells them to do.
malka 11y ago
Are there encryption algorithm such that we could decrypt the payload with more than one key, but only with one key, the real one, it will return the true result, and other keys will return fake, but plausible result ? something like 'hidden volumes' in TrueCrypt.

MidnighToker 11y ago

> 2/ Strict key disclosure laws. You can be thrown to jail, if you cannot decrypt some information when requested by a judge. That's true even in the case where you can prove the key is no longer in your possession... How the heck is this supposed to work when TLS supports Diffe-Hellman?

Lawtonfogle 11y ago
It makes about as much sense as putting a poor person into debtors prison until they pay off their debt. Anyone who supports this is unethical.

higherpurpose 11y ago

Who knew Tor wasn't going to be useful only for people in countries like China, Iran or Saudi Arabia...but also France, Spain, UK, US, Australia, Canada...you know, the "most freedom-loving democratic countries" in the world. There's definitely a coordinated effort to pass these laws together now, to make it seem like it's the "sensible" thing to do after the terrorist attacks. FBI chief Backdoor-Comey has also been making rounds in European countries to push for total surveillance laws "or else it might hurt their relationship with the US". This may especially work in weaker countries where a partnership with the US is regarded as a god-send and they'll try not to do anything to hurt that partnership. In other words they'll do anything the US government tells them to do.

malka 11y ago

Are there encryption algorithm such that we could decrypt the payload with more than one key, but only with one key, the real one, it will return the true result, and other keys will return fake, but plausible result ? something like 'hidden volumes' in TrueCrypt.