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It's easy to become seduced over the articles on HN, Double Your Freelancing, Patrick McKenzie earning $30k/week and guys commenting they charge $180. The real
by hackerboos 12y ago
It's easy to become seduced over the articles on HN, Double Your Freelancing, Patrick McKenzie earning $30k/week and guys commenting they charge $180.
The reality is very different.
Most consultants are much older than 23. They usually know a few technologies inside-out.
For example we had to hire someone recently - he was a guy in his mid-40s who knew this particular thing we needed doing, this is a real email:
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My rate would be £1350/day + expenses.
If the customer wishes to go ahead, I would suggest spending a day on site when all the relevant [company name] staff will be available, and possibly [third party company] who I presume is a supplier or partner associated with the X.25 links or the function which runs over them? This would be split into a meeting where I can discover more about their requirements and constraints, and then some time investigating the systems to see what they're running on the systems, what can be found of any development/build/testing environment, etc. I can then return home and write this up for them, so they can decide what they want to go. This is a minimum of 2 days work for the visit and initial write-up, but it would be wise to allow for more because it's going to depend on what I find when I get there which is a big unknown at the moment, as they know so little about the system themselves -- it might take longer than a day on site to work out what their current setup is.”
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Note £1350/day is about $250/hour, however, he was worth every penny because nobody in our company knows how to do this.
He was on site roughly 2 days though to gather requirements and around 2 weeks to do the work. 12 days at that rate is $24,000.
- zhte415 12y agoThe tone and details of this email oozes a person with experience, has seen problems before but heads-up this might be worse than you think, and despite being worded quite formally seems a pretty modest (assertive, not aggressive nor submissive). Given the technology that is X.25 they also seem to be aware they can charge an eminently reasonable market rate to get approved yet put their foot down on working conditions (their quote is their quote, hours and 'productivity' agreed in advance). I'd imagine they get a lot of recommendations, just from extrapolating that email.
- ereckers 12y agoI just want to say thanks for posting this piece of correspondence. I love seeing real world interactions like this. It's real. It's something that really happened during day to day business. This is straight up stuff from a person that knows what they are doing and I don't see 1 word of self promotion in it at all. I need to take a cold shower.
- tptacek 12y agoThanks for posting this. Just a note: if this was me (or the practice I left last year) and the client was local, that on-site meeting where we scoped out what the project was would have been non-billable. We'd have done it gratis.