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The changes started in 10.7 to modernize OSX with some iOS inspired features have grown into killer features for me. When you add up everything from the last fe

by jsz0 12y ago

The changes started in 10.7 to modernize OSX with some iOS inspired features have grown into killer features for me. When you add up everything from the last few years it's an impressive list: * HiDPI support & Retina scaled resolutions * AirPlay video / desktops * Photos / iCloud Photo Library * Notifications * Handoff / Continuity * iMessage / FaceTime (bundled in 10.7) * Voice & SMS relay * Find my Mac / remote lock & erase via iCloud * Automatic cellular data tethering * MailDrop for sending large Mail attachments * AutoSave (app state save/restoration) * 32->64 / ALSR / kext signing / GateKeeper * Rotating TimeMachine backups * EFI OS Recovery

FireBeyond 12y ago
Lets be honest though. I am a big fan, a convert even. An impressive list, maybe, but when the parent talks innovation, how many of these fit the bill? These don't, to me: photo library, notifications, iMessage and FaceTime, sms relay, remote lock and erase, cellular tethering, 32>64, next signing, all borrowed HEAVILY from competitors.
- oldmanjay 12y ago
  I'm not sure what definition of innovation you use but I assure you it does not require invention from first principles.
  - FireBeyond 12y ago
    It also does not mean "feature X, taken (in some cases almost cloned) from somewhere else, is now an 'Apple innovation'." I like all of those features (though AirPlay still is a struggle with HD, though to be expected; and handoff for voice is still very buggy). And others are genuine innovations or things that Apple has polished. But to point to, for an egregious example, "Look, Notifications, how innovative that is" is also disingenuous.
- kalleboo 12y ago
  If you're going to play that game, there's been no innovation whatsoever since day 1. GP mentions Spotlight but that was just stolen from BeOS, the leaked WinFS plans, etc etc.
  - tjl 12y ago
    Spotlight stolen from BeOS? LaunchBar which goes back to the NeXT days has the basic Spotlight features and more. While it's not a NeXT company product, it was a third-party product for their OS. I'd say it's more likely they borrowed ideas from it, if anything. But given they had Sherlock (where the initial version predates OS X), I'd say it was initially more of a re-imagining of Sherlock.

by jsz0 12y ago

FireBeyond 12y ago

Lets be honest though. I am a big fan, a convert even. An impressive list, maybe, but when the parent talks innovation, how many of these fit the bill? These don't, to me: photo library, notifications, iMessage and FaceTime, sms relay, remote lock and erase, cellular tethering, 32>64, next signing, all borrowed HEAVILY from competitors.

oldmanjay 12y ago
I'm not sure what definition of innovation you use but I assure you it does not require invention from first principles.
- FireBeyond 12y ago
  It also does not mean "feature X, taken (in some cases almost cloned) from somewhere else, is now an 'Apple innovation'." I like all of those features (though AirPlay still is a struggle with HD, though to be expected; and handoff for voice is still very buggy). And others are genuine innovations or things that Apple has polished. But to point to, for an egregious example, "Look, Notifications, how innovative that is" is also disingenuous.
kalleboo 12y ago
If you're going to play that game, there's been no innovation whatsoever since day 1. GP mentions Spotlight but that was just stolen from BeOS, the leaked WinFS plans, etc etc.
- tjl 12y ago
  Spotlight stolen from BeOS? LaunchBar which goes back to the NeXT days has the basic Spotlight features and more. While it's not a NeXT company product, it was a third-party product for their OS. I'd say it's more likely they borrowed ideas from it, if anything. But given they had Sherlock (where the initial version predates OS X), I'd say it was initially more of a re-imagining of Sherlock.