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If you employ the violence of the state to keep me from walking on so-called "private" property, then absolutely my freedom is impeded. What's "private" space
by Frondo 12y ago
If you employ the violence of the state to keep me from walking on so-called "private" property, then absolutely my freedom is impeded.
What's "private" space without the violence of the state to back it up? By what right can you exclude me from walking wherever I please, under some guise of "freedom"?
- EpicEng 12y agoWhy do you keep putting "private" in quotes? Do you seriously believe that you should be able to walk into my living room and grab a seat on the couch? Do you seriously believe that you're not "free" if you cannot do so? Should I then be "free" to kick the crap out of you when you take a step into my lawn? Your notion of freedom seems to only work in your favor and completely disregards everyone else.
- Frondo 12y agoWalking onto property you claim as your own is not a violent act. Kicking the crap out of me because I've walked onto property you claim as your own is a violent act. Constraining my movement with respect to your lawn is putting a constraint on my freedom. Beating me up neither constrains my freedom nor encourages it, it's just you being violent. It's also silly to say the US is founded on "freedom" when that word is uselessly vague.
- EpicEng 12y agoI didn't say that the US was "founded on freedom", but the idea of certain freedoms were very much a part of its inception. Regardless, I don't think you actually defended anything you said. My ability to own private property constrains your freedom in the same way that my mere physical existence constrains your freedom of occupying the same physical space as me. It's all a bunch of psuedo-intellectual, hypothetical nonsense.