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Zuckerberg's sly attempt to sneak in free Facebook through Internet.org not gonna work in India.

by vy3r 12y ago

jbob2000 12y ago
Oh no! Giving something away for free! The travesty!
- ishansharma 12y ago
  Internet.org is currently offered on only one carrier (Reliance) and this is a clear net neutrality violation. Even if it were offered on all carriers, this is a violation. Also, this is hypocritical since FB supports NN in US! What's worse is that some companies are using this as an example to push for legalisation of zero rating. This is worsened by our regulator's stancce which is pro telecom companies.
  - miteshashar 12y ago
    Do you mean if it were offered on ALL platforms, it wouldn't be a violation?
  - ishansharma 12y ago
    @miteshashar Typed it too fast I guess. Will correct.
  - miteshashar 12y ago
    Even worse is that a lot of decision makers in our country's administration can be misled into accepting the practice as digital status quo, because a large company like facebook says so.
- medecau 12y ago
  There is no such thing as a free lunch!
  - jace 12y ago
    Precisely, which is why we're opposed to telcos scamming users with free lunches.
- aravindet 12y ago
  Sometimes preventing fragmentation of the network is more important. A mobile operator can't, for instance, use licensed spectrum to run a service that doesn't interoperate with others or with emergency services - even if it's free. If Verizon were to sign up for this, it would fall foul of FCC's rules too (it is clearly paid prioritization when all websites that don't pay are blocked.) It's not for nothing that net neutrality laws in a bunch of countries (Chile, the Netherlands, Brazil and probably a few more) explicitly forbid zero-rating.
- vy3r 12y ago
  FB will love for "the next billion" to be in the walled garden internet of FB. More people to advertise to, no competition.
- nileshtrivedi 12y ago
  This seems a bit naive. The argument is definitely more nuanced than this. For example, Tim Berners Lee has slammed zero-rating as well: http://inform.tmforum.org/news/2015/02/net-neutrality-compromised-zero-rating-says-tim-berners-lee/ http://inform.tmforum.org/news/2015/02/net-neutrality-compro...

Zuckerberg's sly attempt to sneak in free Facebook through Internet.org not gonna work in India.

by vy3r 12y ago

Zuckerberg's sly attempt to sneak in free Facebook through Internet.org not gonna work in India.

jbob2000 12y ago

Oh no! Giving something away for free! The travesty!

ishansharma 12y ago
Internet.org is currently offered on only one carrier (Reliance) and this is a clear net neutrality violation. Even if it were offered on all carriers, this is a violation. Also, this is hypocritical since FB supports NN in US! What's worse is that some companies are using this as an example to push for legalisation of zero rating. This is worsened by our regulator's stancce which is pro telecom companies.
- miteshashar 12y ago
  Do you mean if it were offered on ALL platforms, it wouldn't be a violation?
- ishansharma 12y ago
  @miteshashar Typed it too fast I guess. Will correct.
- miteshashar 12y ago
  Even worse is that a lot of decision makers in our country's administration can be misled into accepting the practice as digital status quo, because a large company like facebook says so.
medecau 12y ago
There is no such thing as a free lunch!
- jace 12y ago
  Precisely, which is why we're opposed to telcos scamming users with free lunches.
aravindet 12y ago
Sometimes preventing fragmentation of the network is more important. A mobile operator can't, for instance, use licensed spectrum to run a service that doesn't interoperate with others or with emergency services - even if it's free. If Verizon were to sign up for this, it would fall foul of FCC's rules too (it is clearly paid prioritization when all websites that don't pay are blocked.) It's not for nothing that net neutrality laws in a bunch of countries (Chile, the Netherlands, Brazil and probably a few more) explicitly forbid zero-rating.
vy3r 12y ago
FB will love for "the next billion" to be in the walled garden internet of FB. More people to advertise to, no competition.
nileshtrivedi 12y ago
This seems a bit naive. The argument is definitely more nuanced than this. For example, Tim Berners Lee has slammed zero-rating as well: http://inform.tmforum.org/news/2015/02/net-neutrality-compromised-zero-rating-says-tim-berners-lee/ http://inform.tmforum.org/news/2015/02/net-neutrality-compro...